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Bison Maritime Partol

Started by kerick, May 19, 2022, 09:08:50 PM

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Wardukw

Ive can honestly say ive been there Kit..both paints might be enamels but the metallic part of the sliver paint wont work with anything else sometimes..the reason ? ..biggered if i know really but it seems any enamel metallic can be a right pain in the arse when over sprayed or used to spray over another colour and in alot cases it dont matter even if their the same brand..now i will only use acrylic metallics.but one thing you could try and i do know it works is spraying a gloss coat over the white so the metallic cant touch it .
Or just bite the bullet like i did and spray everything with acrylics..ive never had a problem since.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

zenrat

I'm always very very wary of masking over metallics whatever their chemical composition.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kerick

Strange also how the white worked perfectly on the my British WW2 attack helicopter. Yet on the the bare plastic missiles I made it spray like crap. Oh well it's in the trash now. Oh and the tape was supposedly "wall safe". Maybe on ten year old latex. I'm going to the store later for new hobby paint.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

One thing i did discover early one is curtain colours absolutely have to primed first..white ..red..orange..any translucent colour has to be primed due to them not being solid or dark..we all black covers everything yet alot of blues wont ..even some greens wont cover without primer.
Fred ya to right about masking metallics..what i do is spray primer first..metallics second then any other colour third..metallics stick great to primer but it dont seem to stick to other paint..it extremely bloody frustrating.
Tamiya sprays are not cheap but are surprisingly good..their metallics are very nice to work with.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Well it's stripped now and will require sanding to remove leftovers and smooth out the surface again. After I washed it with soap and water it looked like vanilla frosting all over it, I set it out in the sun to dry and most of the "frosting" on the top disappeared. Maybe the UV light did something? Painting for me has gotten so weird. Tempted to go back to the brush.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

We all have those things happen bud..when i got into building models i felt like a total beginner but got there in the end..you'll get it back ..the vibe is playing silly buggers with ya ..the vibe will return  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Well the Bison is back to the original green plastic. Much wet sanding it was required to remove the leftover silver paint and slimy stuff left by the easyoff.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

Have an idea ..spray ya primer then the green and then white ..would it be better to loose the metallic paint and go for a gloss green ..would still look pretty good mate.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Oh I'm not going down the silver road again you can bet on that! Spent a bunch of money on hobby paints yesterday so I can finish this and a couple other builds.
I'll be working on PSR again for now but probably light grey over white. I saw a couple of pics like that and it looked good. I'll add some different lumps and bumps as I was a little dissatisfied with the first set up.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

Playing it safe mate works for me ..its the expence and time lost which is most annoying especially if your first colour goes on super nice and colour 2 destroys it..its depressing as hell .
Glad ya going going a different direction nit only to save paint but ya sanity as well .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

#55
A couple of pics to catch up.

Back to green plastic. I have since sanded with a much finer paper and it looks much better.



I built two completely fictitious missiles out of the forward 3/4 of F-104 tanks, wings from other missiles and small LGB fins. Green and black was the grossest color combo I've found so I went with that. I brush liquid glue over the Bondo putty as its porous and soaks up the first coat of paint and shows up otherwise. The glue acts like a primer, sealing the surface.



This real one looks like grey over white.



Many pics look like NMF but others look more like an aluminum dope color.



I might do grey over white or a light aircraft grey that looks more like hemp......?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Rick Lowe

The 2nd pic looks like silver styrene... you're sure it's a real aircraft?  ;D

I was recommended and used an old jar of Johnson's Klear (old, yellowing, not up to top-cover-use) over filler - in fact, the whole Corsair which was then brush coated with Humbrol Aluminium (don't ask how old that tin was... I don't know either) and it was fine, didn't show up any of the different materials.
I guess as long as it's a nice, hard, inert surface coating you should be ok.

kerick

Sprayed on some Testors gloss white last night. Looked pretty good! It's in the drying oven that is my garage right now.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

kerick

Masked off and sprayed "camo grey" last night. Seems a lot more brown than grey so I'll have to pass it off as a Russian attempt at hemp. There is a couple of spots that wrinkled up which I might just leave or spot touch up.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

This is getting closer to being seen ..only if the paint will bloody well behave itself.
Im pretty sure this covid thing is playing silly buggers with the production of things..i picked up some gray primer last week for the Python and tested it and man it did not spray good at all..its a pretty high quality brand too..not the norm for this brand .
Oh i dont use the cheap brand cause here their too crap to use..total rubbish paint.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .