Done :- The Supermarine Swift F10

[PR19_Kit]

The Hunter tailplanes aren't all that much bigger than the Swift ones, and the sweep angle doesn't match the wing either. Scratching up a new pair would work better I reckon.

The Red Tops are staying, a) 'cos I like Red Tops and b) 'cos I have some handy and I don't have any Firestreaks (yet...).

Applying Kit's 2nd law, 'The F10s had the electronics for the Red Tops in the front end  of the large, under belly fuel tank'. 

Sorted.

[Wardukw]

If you can find it ..make it..Wardukws 5th rule 
Scratching up i reckon is your best bet Kit..its not the easiest way but its probably the only you'll get what you want..yup total agreement here with ya 

[Pellson]

The Hunter tailplanes aren't all that much bigger than the Swift ones, and the sweep angle doesn't match the wing either. Scratching up a new pair would work better I reckon.

The Red Tops are staying, a) 'cos I like Red Tops and b) 'cos I have some handy and I don't have any Firestreaks (yet...).

Applying Kit's 2nd law, 'The F10s had the electronics for the Red Tops in the front end  of the large, under belly fuel tank'. 

Sorted.

Assuming the aircraft is well balanced, longer wings for better performance at altitude doesn't necessarily mean you have to increase the control areas. Look at the RB-57F, f.i that got a (much) bigger tail but kept her stabilisators.

Re the electronics - I'm not so sure the Red Top associated electronics wouldn't fit. Looking at the Lightning, the arms packs were equally big for both types of missiles, and with some tweaking, I think it should work without taking too much of that blob in consideration.

But I might be wrong, Lee is usually annoyingly well read up, and heck - it's whifworld anyway.. 

[zenrat]

IMO the vertical tail needs moving backwards.


Supermarine Swift - 11 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr

[PR19_Kit]

and heck - it's whifworld anyway.. 

EXACTLY! 

I now do have some Firestreaks (see my stash increase post...) so maybe I'll hang two Firestreaks outboard and two Red Tops inboard.

Now THAT should get some rude comments for sure. 

[The Wooksta!]

Red Top and Firestreak were interchangeable, as the former was based on the latter. Certainly on the Lightning F3, T5 and F6.
Electronics for Firestreak were in the lower fuselage pack where the pylons went and it was detachable. The electronics for Red Top went elsewhere, IIRC where the guns were in the earlier marks, which is why the earlier marks and the rebuilt F2As never carried Red Top. I think the later marks had the electronics for both missiles hence why they could carry both types of missile.

There was a proposal for Hunters to carry a pair of Firestreaks along the fuselage, with the Lightning style missile pack being interchangeable with the ADEN gunpack.

[PR19_Kit]

A Hunter with Firestreaks sounds like a good modelling prospect, even for the current GB. 

[The Wooksta!]

There's one unfinished from last year. I just need a set of decent Firestreaks.

[Gondor]

There was a proposal for Hunters to carry a pair of Firestreaks along the fuselage, with the Lightning style missile pack being interchangeable with the ADEN gunpack.

Sounds like a plan to pinch. Any markings for me to stay clear of?

Gondor

[The Wooksta!]

I haven't even thought that far. I have others to worry about before I get to it.

[PR19_Kit]

PSR on the Swift is done and it's now primed.



I still have to extend the tailplanes, and I'm not sure how to do that. Either chop the old ones off and scratch some new ones, or do my usual thing and add some tips to the old ones? I'm tending toward the latter, at least I have some experience with that method. 

Then comes the colour coats, and I'm REALLY in a quandary with that. Originally I was going to arm it with 4 x Red Tops, but they seem to be a tad advanced for a Swift, so I mentally switched to Firestreaks, except I don't have enough of them, so the idea of a mixed load appeared. One Firestreak and one Red Top, not as an operational aircraft but as a trials machine, like an advanced F7, which did the same thing with the Fireflash..

The backstory would say something like Their Airships were worried that at the very high altitudes that interceptions would likely take place, that there was a possibility that the Sun's IR might confuse the poor missles, so an ultra-high altitude version of the Swift F7 was ordered and carried out trials to test this theory at Llanbedre, and elsewhere. As such the model will carry a Firestreak on one side and a Red Top on the other, with some camera and instrumentation pods on the outer wing pylons.

(Kit's 2nd Law applies.................  )

But then I'll have to invent a Trials Flight colour scheme.

Hmmmmm.........................

[Gondor]

I have a couple of sets of decals from the AZ MB.5 Special schemes which have the Black and White quartered circlues on them, yours if you want them.

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

Thanks Alastair, but I have a sheet of them that I drew up for your namesake already (but with an 'i'....)

They'd shout 'TRIALS' at you for sure, wouldn't they? I wonder if mini versions of them would look good on the missiles themselves?

[NARSES2]

They'd shout 'TRIALS' at you for sure, wouldn't they? I wonder if mini versions of them would look good on the missiles themselves?

Most certainly

[Gondor]

Thanks Alastair, but I have a sheet of them that I drew up for your namesake already (but with an 'i'....)

They'd shout 'TRIALS' at you for sure, wouldn't they? I wonder if mini versions of them would look good on the missiles themselves?

I am sure that has been done for some ordinance.

There are multiple different spellings of Alastair, I worked for a company where there were three Alastairs and each of us had a different spelling as well. It made sending emails an act of precision.

Gondor