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The 1950's GB Rules

Started by NARSES2, February 01, 2023, 06:30:37 AM

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crudebuteffective

Quote from: sandiego89 on February 08, 2023, 07:09:37 AMMight be best to specifically state if something from the 1950's in later service is eligible or not, or if something from the 1940's (or earlier) but still serving in the 1950's is eligible.  Looks like Dizzy was asking about a F-106 (first flight 1959) but in later Vietnam service. 

Either:

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but serving in later service are allowed (eg: a B-52 in 2023, a 1950's Havana taxi still being used).  Subjects from earlier eras, but in service in the 1950's are allowed (eg: a DC-3 flying for Rhodesian airlines in 1956).

or

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)   



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Quote from: sandiego89 on February 08, 2023, 07:09:37 AMMight be best to specifically state if something from the 1950's in later service is eligible or not, or if something from the 1940's (or earlier) but still serving in the 1950's is eligible.  Looks like Dizzy was asking about a F-106 (first flight 1959) but in later Vietnam service. 

Either:

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but serving in later service are allowed (eg: a B-52 in 2023, a 1950's Havana taxi still being used).  Subjects from earlier eras, but in service in the 1950's are allowed (eg: a DC-3 flying for Rhodesian airlines in 1956).

or

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)   



OK we have checked the VAR and we are going with

Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)
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crudebuteffective

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:


I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

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sandiego89

Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on February 08, 2023, 07:09:37 AMMight be best to specifically state if something from the 1950's in later service is eligible or not, or if something from the 1940's (or earlier) but still serving in the 1950's is eligible.  Looks like Dizzy was asking about a F-106 (first flight 1959) but in later Vietnam service. 

Either:

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but serving in later service are allowed (eg: a B-52 in 2023, a 1950's Havana taxi still being used).  Subjects from earlier eras, but in service in the 1950's are allowed (eg: a DC-3 flying for Rhodesian airlines in 1956).

or

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)   



OK we have checked the VAR and we are going with

Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)

So as I read the rule, being "used or in-service" in the 1950's would allow for for a 1940's (or earlier) subject that is depicted in service in the 1950's fine?  Say a Spitfire in the 1956 Suez crisis would be allowed (with proper invasion stripes of course)?  A Ford Model-T being used in Korea in 1951?  Correct?

Not trying to be difficult, I just have a subject in mind that first flew in the 1940's but will be depicted in service in the early 1950's.   
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

crudebuteffective

Quote from: sandiego89 on February 08, 2023, 11:46:03 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:08:35 AM
Quote from: sandiego89 on February 08, 2023, 07:09:37 AMMight be best to specifically state if something from the 1950's in later service is eligible or not, or if something from the 1940's (or earlier) but still serving in the 1950's is eligible.  Looks like Dizzy was asking about a F-106 (first flight 1959) but in later Vietnam service. 

Either:

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but serving in later service are allowed (eg: a B-52 in 2023, a 1950's Havana taxi still being used).  Subjects from earlier eras, but in service in the 1950's are allowed (eg: a DC-3 flying for Rhodesian airlines in 1956).

or

2 Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)   



OK we have checked the VAR and we are going with

Physical models of any scale, profiles, and stories are eligible but your subject must be a whif that was either built, designed, proposed, considered or used and in service during the 1950's.  Subjects from this era, but in later use are not permitted (eg: a EE Lightning in 1972 service with Switzerland is not eligible)

So as I read the rule, being "used or in-service" in the 1950's would allow for for a 1940's (or earlier) subject that is depicted in service in the 1950's fine?  Say a Spitfire in the 1956 Suez crisis would be allowed (with proper invasion stripes of course)?  A Ford Model-T being used in Korea in 1951?  Correct?

Not trying to be difficult, I just have a subject in mind that first flew in the 1940's but will be depicted in service in the early 1950's.   

yep  a 1940s aircraft in 1950s markings is fine

mark
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kitbasher

Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!
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Caveman

Quote from: kitbasher on February 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!

Unless you paint it up as it looked in the 1950's
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zenrat

#22
Lightnings first flew in '57 and so were proposed, considered, designed and built in the 50's.  But you say one in Swiss service in '72 is not allowed?  Doesn't make sense to me.
If you want to limit the GB to things being used between '50 and '59 then just say that.

Personally I am not in favour of clamping down too much on what we are allowed to build.  Big wide scope is best.  Let our imagination run free and see what we come up with.  The poll will decide what should and shouldn't have been there.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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crudebuteffective

Quote from: kitbasher on February 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!

UNLESS YOU DO IT BEING VIEWED BY TOURIST IN AD1956 :thumbsup:
Remember, if the reality police ask you haven't seen us in ages!
When does "old enough to know better" kick in?

kitbasher

Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 09, 2023, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!

UNLESS YOU DO IT BEING VIEWED BY TOURIST IN AD1956 :thumbsup:

Cunning!
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scooter

Quote from: kitbasher on February 09, 2023, 03:43:49 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 09, 2023, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!

UNLESS YOU DO IT BEING VIEWED BY TOURIST IN AD1956 :thumbsup:

Cunning!
I'm I jumping the gun, or are the words "I have a cunning plan" marching with ill-deserved confidence in the direction of this conversation?
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crudebuteffective

Quote from: scooter on February 09, 2023, 04:49:22 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 09, 2023, 03:43:49 AM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 09, 2023, 02:50:46 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 08, 2023, 01:20:51 PM
Quote from: crudebuteffective on February 08, 2023, 10:15:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 08:27:46 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 02, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2023, 02:33:04 AMSo is that 1950's our time line?  :mellow:

I do have a view on that, but I'll leave it to the moderators for a decision.

Quote from: kitbasher on February 02, 2023, 04:29:27 AMEspecially if it's read as meaning 1950s BC/BCE as well as 1959s AD/CE  ;)  :wacko:


I very nearly incorporated that into the draft rules, but didn't on the basis of being considered a "smart alek"   :angel:

What's your point, Chris? 😉😂

lets just stick to 1950s AD/CE  as it was originally envisaged :thumbsup:

THE MODS

Damn, that's my hexagonal Egyptian pyramid out of scope, then!

UNLESS YOU DO IT BEING VIEWED BY TOURIST IN AD1956 :thumbsup:

Cunning!
I'm I jumping the gun, or are the words "I have a cunning plan" marching with ill-deserved confidence in the direction of this conversation?

No baldrick for once you are right
Remember, if the reality police ask you haven't seen us in ages!
When does "old enough to know better" kick in?

kitbasher

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Weaver

Wow: I was reading those nested quote and the Doctor Who theme music started going through my head...

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

Dizzyfugu

A question regarding work on a model before the GB officially starts: would it be O.K. to strip paint from elements through a brake fluid or soda bath before any real construction begins, because this procedure might take a while?  :o