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Boeing B-54B, the Half-Way Bomber

Started by PR19_Kit, March 06, 2023, 07:00:16 AM

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Wardukw

Not being able to see the layout of your landing gear mounting points makes it difficult for me to see how this layout will be and what stresses would be where ..the pods could be modded to mount out riggers into with the mains mounted in the fuselage..if the outriggers are mounted in the outer engines then the stresses would be passed thru the entire wing ..mounted in board would cause far to much stress from the inboard engine out to the wings tip..breakage big-time and a ton of wing flex which I hear isn't really helpful on landing 😀
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sandiego89

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 06, 2023, 01:27:11 PMBefore taking a 'before and after' pic I took a good look at the OOB wing mouldings and was surprised to see that they're re-enforced on the inside. There are strips moulded into the inner surface of both upper and lower halves......


Very interesting. have never seen that amount of re-enforcing on a kit. Surely makes the tooling more expensive, but a nice touch.  I have had a few kits that could have used that.   
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

PR19_Kit

It surprised me too Dave. Neither of the 1/72 scale B-52s I have, Monogram & AMT, have anything like that moulded in, and the M'gram B-36 has such thick styrene for the wings you could WALK on it!

You're right, it must cost a lot more to tool that up.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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NARSES2

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 08, 2023, 05:22:26 AMYou're right, it must cost a lot more to tool that up.

Maybe it decreases failure rate when removing from the moulds ?
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PR19_Kit

After a vertigo induced lack of mojo, I'm back on the B-54B again now, and about time too you might say.

I'm not sure if I'll actually get it all done by the end of the GB, but what the hell, I'll do it anyway.

Working on the tail section at the moment, with the Bear fin being mated to the B-29's rear fuselage, with the American tail turret being melded into the bottom of the rudder, and so far it's going OK. I'll 'Americanise' the shape of the fin-rudder I think, it's all too Soviet looking at the moment.

Pics later hopefully.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

As promised here's the new tail of the B-54B. Needed some sheet packing pieces and will need LOADS of PSR no doubt, but I expected that.

A more tapered B-29 tail cone with a Tu-95 fin/rudder grafted on top, with the B-29 tail turret fiddled in place instead of the Tu-95 turret. It just shows how much Tupolev DIDN'T change the B-29 design.........

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Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

The front bit of the B-54B is a standard B-29 nose, but obviously I won't need the wing roots moulded into it as I'll have the coking great Tu-95 wings some miles feet aft. So I filed the B-29's wing roots away, and that left a socking great hole....... :(

Mucho cutting, filing and trimming of styrene later the hole is plugged, sort of. As with everything else in this build it'll need lots of PSR of course. :(

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Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

What's your favourite brand of filler?

I think i'll buy shares in it....
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Presto!  :thumbsup: The same stuff that Dizzy uses a lot of.

If you can get it, but at the moment I can't.  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Because this is meant to be a half-way house to the proposed B-55, I plan to hang the four turbo-props on pylons, as was intended for the XB-55 as well.

I can't find a single other design with turbo-props hung on nacelles like this, does anyone know of another one?

Here's the proposed XB-55.

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Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

McColm

#87
The original Boeing Model 474.
The  XB-47D but they only have the inner engines replaced a single Wright YT49-W-1 turboprop.
The only aircraft that comes close was the modified MD-81 proposal for the Lockheed P-3 Orion replacement having a pair of propfanned engines back in 1988 known as the P-9D.



It might be worth trying the former USSR or Chinese aircraft design agencies for anything suitable.

PR19_Kit

The single B-47D was the only one I came up with too.

The aft-fan MD-81 doesn't really count as its engines were not wing mounted.

I think I'll have to scratchbuild my pylons for the B-54B as almost all the jet pylons I can find are too long.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

McColm

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 23, 2023, 11:31:29 AMThe single B-47D was the only one I came up with too.

The aft-fan MD-81 doesn't really count as its engines were not wing mounted.

I think I'll have to scratchbuild my pylons for the B-54B as almost all the jet pylons I can find are too long.
You could put the propellers at the rear of the engines to save you a bit of time  :banghead: