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Group Build 2023/2024 First Poll.

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Round One of the 2023/2024 GB Subject Poll - pick up to 15 for entry into Round 2

Aces : Any model of a aircraft, vehicle or ship/sub etc that was an ace-maker
Rivers & lakes : Anything that goes on them -,River/Lake Racing Boats, Seaplanes/Flying Boats, River Gunboats etc
Down Under : Anything adorned by a kangaroo or a kiwi in a national marking
No Camouflage : camouflage didn't happen. Tanks, planes and ships etc in pre cam colours. Silver spitfires, tanks in hi vis recognition colours, ships in pre "battleship grey etc
Space, man :Anything related to escaping Earth.
Anything but military : I think it's self explanatory
Research or exploration. Space, air, land, sea or undersea etc
The Single Kit Build : Meaning everyone tackles the exact same kit.  Something of reasonable quality, but cheap and easy to find everywhere like maybe one of Airfix's recent 1/72 WW2 fighter kits or one of the kits reboxed around the world as Italeri/
Frozen : Allows for Ski planes, high latitude vehicles, ice breakers, railway snow ploughs, deep space, the moons of Jupiter,  dioramas of tundra tractors.etc
TL-191/The Southern Victory GB. The Confederacy wins the US Civil War
The Man in the High Castle GB" Builds based on the t.v. series.
Operation Overlord (D-Day). Self-explanatory I think ?
A generic "Science Fiction" build GB
Africa : As broad a subject as it reads.
Central and S America. Similarly a broad subject
Dogs and Cats GB - Subject name must be that of a dog or a cat.  Grumman Wildcat, Daimler Dingo, Hispaniel Suiza etc
Autogyro GB : Build a wiffed Autogiro
It'll never Work/What were they smoking GB - Stupid and/or ugly and/or weird.  the stupider the idea the better.  Extra points for ridiculousness or building anything from Blackburn or Reliant.
The Longer Wings GB
Buccaneer, Harrier, Jaguar GB - the obvious successor to Lightning, Hunter, Canberra.
The next 50 years in space GB.
The Weather GB – Build based on a weather event/phenomenum etc. eg :- Lightning, Tempest, Typhoon etc
The 23 GB - subject must have some vague connection with the number 23.
The Ekranoplan GB : Build an ekranoplan.
The Scaleorama GB : Use a 1/32 scale kit to build a 1/72 scale subject etc.
The Canard GB : Any aircraft design can be improved with canards.
The Delta Wing GB. Fairly self-explanatory I think
The Star Wars GB : Something from the Star Wars Universe past, present or future.
The Schneider Trophy GB : What if the Schneider Trophy races had continued and ended up running from 1913 into the future ?
The Real World GB : Totally anarchical I know, but just supposing ........?
Ferries GB : Any water or aircraft that can carry another vehicle.
The Traditional Steam Engines GB : Coal/wood powered traction engines or vehicles. Static or mobile.
Nuclear powered vehicles GB : Any nuclear powered vehicle including; ships,  cars, aircraft, spaceships, airships and submarines etc.
The Flying Scotsman GB : Any what-if vehicle bearing the Flying Scotsman's nameplate .
The Powered gliders GB : Any aircraft that needs an engine to provide thrust for altitude but not for forward flight.
The Kitbashed GB : Build something using scrapped models and the spares box.
The Swords into Ploughshares GB : Bombers into air-freighters, half tracks into delivery trucks, destroyers into luxury yachts etc.
The Spaceplanes GB : Any aircraft that uses its own power to take-off, fly into Space at a height of 90,000ft or more and lands back to earth carrying passengers or freight.
The Flying Wings GB : Self explanatory I think.
The Seaplane/Amphibian GB : Self explanatory I think.
The Alternative Irish Air Corps GB : Fairly obvious, but what if EIRE had become a Socialist Republic in the 30's and turned to the Soviet Union, alternatively it could of turned to the right. The worlds your oyster.
The Civilianise/Militarise It GB : A re-run of the 2015 GB.
The VIP GB : Anything land, sea, air, space or time vehicle used by a head of state, head of government, basically anyone considered important.
The alternative propulsion GB :  Entry must show a change in the type of propulsion, or engine.  Sail to steam, horseless carriage to motorized, piston to turboprop or jet, Internal combustion to electric. Etc. Changes to larger engine of the same typ
The South of the Equator GB : Build anything from the Southern Hemisphere
The Extreme GB - Fastest, highest, largest, longest, heaviest etc
The Bomber & Bombardment GB - Something that can bomb something, by dropping it from above or launching it from below. Aircraft, ships, ground vehicles, artillery, orbital platforms etc.  Bombs, shells, missiles, even water bombers
The Humanitarian GB - Anything that delivers aid to those in need
The Animation Studio Wars GB : The various animation studios and their characters get involved in inter-studio conflict.
The Armed Forces of the Fast Food Company Wars GB :  Business rivalry turns violent in the fast food industry.
The Business Jets converted into Maritime Patrol Aircraft GB : Self explanatory
The Mach 2 Kit GB : Your base kit has to be a Mach 2 kit
The Ambulance GB : Any vehicle used to transport casualties to/from hospital etc. Can be land, sea or air.
The James Bond GB : Build a what-if vehicle, gadget etc that's intended to feature in a James Bond movie. Your model might be an alternative version of something that appeared in a real James Bond movie (for example, put the real Aston Martin DB6 mods
The Baltic or Mediterranean GB : Build something based in one of the seas or used by one of the countries that surround them.
The Out of time GB: Models, markings displayed in a time other than their own. WW1 Spitfire, Modern USAF Mustang, etc
The Re-engine it GB : Models with visibly other engines than the original
The Monster Figures GB : Self explanatory I think
The Racer GB : Any form of racing. Aircraft, boat, automobile animal etc
The Mach 3 and Hypersonic vehicles GB : Self explanatory I think.
The Re-Engine your Vehicle GB : Re-engine your land vehicle with an aircraft engine, aircraft with car or motorbike engines,  boats with aircraft engines etc
The Food Glorious Food GB : Mega farm vehicles, delivery vehicles etc
The 1960's GB : Self explanatory
The Falklands GB : Build something used in a Falklands conflict (the real one or a fictious one) or something just based/used there
The Phoenix from the ashes GB. : Kit or rendering must be from an already started, or completed model.  If a rebuild, it must be noticeably altered from a previous build.  Just a new paint scheme or marking is NOT permitted.  We all have those WHIF pr
The Electronic Warfare GB : Again self explanatory I think.
The Roman GB : Rome never fell and the Empire/Republic is still going
The Cops and Robbers GB :Alternative pursuit & getaway vehicles etc.
The Between the Wars GB : Anything from the period 1918 to 1939.
The Post Apocalypse GB :  Anything from after the nuclear or other apocalypse
The Alternative Public Transport GB : Tanks converted to buses, bombers to air-liners etc.
The Trials and Tribulations GB : Anything used by trials/testing organisations (real or fictional) for testing machines, stores (weaponry, etc), processes, people, tactics - anything, any era.
The Circus Comes to Town GB : Alternative circus vehicles, equipment. Maybe a space circus ?
The Off Road Vehicles GB : Self explanatory
The Alternative Rescue Services GB : Thunderbirds etc
The Fantasy Film Vehicles GB : Vehicles used in a fantasy film or tv series.
The Double 'Em/Halve 'Em GB : Double the number of engines on your plane, or in you vehicle or boat/Halve the number of engines on your plane, or in you vehicle or boat.The idea is to try to stay in-period & keep the overall power output about
The Old Kit GB : Base your model on a kit more than x years old (x to be decided if subject chosen)
The Four Legged Friends GB : Build a whiff based on a animal with 4 legs.
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kitbasher

#15
March 22, 2023, 03:25:15 AM
Quote from: Weaver on March 22, 2023, 02:57:22 AMI've voted for 15. Obviously I've voted for those I proposed, and those which were similar to something I've proposed in the past. As for the rest, I've tried to avoid things that only appeal to a subset of the membership, e.g. aircraft-only subjects which would exclude armour/ship modellers.

Thanks for all your efforts Chris - much appreciated. :thumbsup:

Agreed, thanks Chris.

Quote from: NARSES2 on March 22, 2023, 12:48:11 AMOn a serious note it's why I ask people to think about their ideas in terms of viability/practicality/likely popularity before submitting them. Doesn't seem to get through to all though. So far I reckon I've spent 7 hours sorting this years GB's out and there's more work to come. Can you tell I'm tired ?

Yep, know what you mean but again thanks for doing the necessary sifting.

Quote from: loupgarou on March 22, 2023, 02:55:46 AMI agree that some suggestions are what Frenchmen would call farfelues.  :rolleyes:

Oh yes!  Apart from my suggestions, of course!  ;)
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zenrat

#16
March 22, 2023, 03:53:10 AM Last Edit: March 22, 2023, 04:06:40 AM by zenrat
Space, Star Wars, Spaceplanes, and Sci Fi can probably be combined Chris.

15 votes wasn't enough.  I had to not vote for most of my suggestions.   :-\

Bloody good job putting it all together though.  Rather you than me.
In case we don't say it enough, thank you. 
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Sport21ing

#17
March 22, 2023, 05:10:47 AM
Done
My deviantart page:
http://sport16ing.deviantart.com/

PS: Not my art, not very good at drawning :P

NARSES2

#18
March 22, 2023, 06:34:57 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 22, 2023, 03:53:10 AMSpace, Star Wars, Spaceplanes, and Sci Fi can probably be combined Chris.


I'll probably do that when it comes to it.

Cheers gents

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Wardukw

#19
March 22, 2023, 12:43:44 PM
I have 10 votes in and I would be seriously tempted to do them all ..every one sounds like fun and will get the brain working quite well  ;D

Thanks Chris for all your hard yakka mate..it's much appreciated  :thumbsup:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

#20
March 22, 2023, 12:59:17 PM
Done it now, with all 15 chosen.  :thumbsup:

Looking at the leaderboard, the current #1 should have been almost predictable, considering which forum we're actually in.  ;D  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

TomZ

#21
March 22, 2023, 01:12:19 PM
Chris,

You have several "Racing" and several "Re-engined" themes in there.

TomZ
Reality is an illusion caused by an alcohol deficiency

kerick

#22
March 22, 2023, 01:26:19 PM
I'm all for combining suggestions. Makes the voting easier later.
Just a suggestion, could we add Phantoms to the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB? Assuming it makes the cut of course.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

kitbasher

#23
March 22, 2023, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on March 22, 2023, 06:34:57 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 22, 2023, 03:53:10 AMSpace, Star Wars, Spaceplanes, and Sci Fi can probably be combined Chris.


I'll probably do that when it comes to it.

Cheers gents



Yeah but the rules have to say that only stuff operating 100 km above the Earth is in space  ;)
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AeroplaneDriver

#24
March 22, 2023, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 22, 2023, 01:26:19 PMI'm all for combining suggestions. Makes the voting easier later.
Just a suggestion, could we add Phantoms to the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB? Assuming it makes the cut of course.

I voted for this one and my initial thought on this suggestion was wholehearted support, because I picture UK Phantoms.  But the more I think the more I wonder if it dilutes the idea of it being a follow on to the LHC build.  Not totally against the idea but think scope should maybe keep it to the Spey Phantoms if it gets added in.  I think that could keep it a worthy successor to LHC.  I'd be in either way if it makes the cut but just throwing out thoughts.
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

kerick

#25
March 22, 2023, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on March 22, 2023, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 22, 2023, 01:26:19 PMI'm all for combining suggestions. Makes the voting easier later.
Just a suggestion, could we add Phantoms to the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB? Assuming it makes the cut of course.

I voted for this one and my initial thought on this suggestion was wholehearted support, because I picture UK Phantoms.  But the more I think the more I wonder if it dilutes the idea of it being a follow on to the LHC build.  Not totally against the idea but think scope should maybe keep it to the Spey Phantoms if it gets added in.  I think that could keep it a worthy successor to LHC.  I'd be in either way if it makes the cut but just throwing out thoughts.

Spey Phantoms would fit perfectly. Didn't RN Phantoms get transferred to the RAF like the Buccaneers?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

AeroplaneDriver

#26
March 22, 2023, 10:22:15 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 22, 2023, 08:49:35 PM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on March 22, 2023, 06:55:14 PM
Quote from: kerick on March 22, 2023, 01:26:19 PMI'm all for combining suggestions. Makes the voting easier later.
Just a suggestion, could we add Phantoms to the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB? Assuming it makes the cut of course.

I voted for this one and my initial thought on this suggestion was wholehearted support, because I picture UK Phantoms.  But the more I think the more I wonder if it dilutes the idea of it being a follow on to the LHC build.  Not totally against the idea but think scope should maybe keep it to the Spey Phantoms if it gets added in.  I think that could keep it a worthy successor to LHC.  I'd be in either way if it makes the cut but just throwing out thoughts.

Spey Phantoms would fit perfectly. Didn't RN Phantoms get transferred to the RAF like the Buccaneers?


They did.
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

NARSES2

#27
March 23, 2023, 01:35:14 AM
Quote from: TomZ on March 22, 2023, 01:12:19 PMChris,

You have several "Racing" and several "Re-engined" themes in there.

TomZ

Possibly, but as far as racing was concerned I thought they were sufficiently different as to warrant their own theme ? Re-engined ? Unfortunately I know absolutely nothing about engines what so ever and basically really didn't know if they were similar enough to be combined, and I'm being serious.

Again I'll have a look once I close the poll to see if there are any that can be combined.

I do try and pick up similar themes, but I'm afraid with initially well over 80 suggestions and some peoples "scatter gun" approach to making them it gets more and more difficult every year. Combine that with a couple of hospital appointments, putting the UK Groups Newsletter together and looking at the GB Rules proposals all at the same time and I'm afraid things got missed. The rules proposals are collated and I'll "publish" them once round 2 of the GB Poll is up, so no more suggestions please.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

NARSES2

#28
March 23, 2023, 01:44:02 AM
Quote from: kerick on March 22, 2023, 01:26:19 PMJust a suggestion, could we add Phantoms to the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB? Assuming it makes the cut of course.

Sorry, no. The proposal was for the 3 specific aircraft and they are also British (Anglo/French in one case) designs in the same way as the LHC GB. It just makes it to different from the original proposal in my view.

Whilst I'm happy to consider merging similar subjects (which I probably should have done in the first place) when it comes to Round 2 I just feel adding something completely new alters a subject to much and if I do it for one I'll be getting "oh could you just add ******* to the so-and-so suggestion when it comes to Round 2.

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

McColm

#29
March 23, 2023, 03:49:02 AM
It's interesting on the wording of some of the suggestions during this stage of the polling especially around the 8-10% of the votes so far.
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