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GB Rules Proposal version 2

Started by NARSES2, April 30, 2023, 06:20:34 AM

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Rick Lowe

Looks good, Chris, and thanks for your work on this. 2X :thumbsup:

I may yet try my hand at a GB, never say never... ;)  though my glacial build rate will still factor in... ;D

NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

kitbasher

Good stuff, Chris, thanks for wrangling this  :thumbsup:

Rule 5 is a difficult one to resolve and I think it really has to be down to the moderator(s) to make the call.
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sandiego89

Looks great! 

Perhaps add to #4 under allowed preparation: printing of 3D parts or subassemblies.  (Similar to casting I would think)
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Pellson

Quote from: kitbasher on May 02, 2023, 07:44:11 AMGood stuff, Chris, thanks for wrangling this  :thumbsup:

Rule 5 is a difficult one to resolve and I think it really has to be down to the moderator(s) to make the call.

I think so too - unless we would have gone from the other perspective allowing prestarted models, limiting from the other end with a paragraph f.i forbidding "structurally completed models" or similar. But for now, I think the way we are looking at the the easiest way forward, and I have more than enough trust in the Mods to not feel too limited in what I potentially would submit.
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

NARSES2

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Gentlemen

Right here's version 2 of  the drafted rules with a couple of amendments as suggested by yourselves.  If these are ok then we can start using these from the 2023/2024 Season ?

1.  The (insert name of GB) begins 00:01 xx/xx/xxxx  and ends 23:59 xx/xx/xxxx (all times local).  An extension may/may not be considered/granted according to demand,

2.  Physical models of any scale, profiles, and/or stories are eligible, but they must be whiffery.  Entries can be as simple or as complex as you wish. If in doubt as to what is included in the GB then please PM the Moderators. (This is the rule which will include the definition of what is covered by the specific GB)

3.  You may build, draw or write as many entries as you like (good luck!).  The posting of in-progress pictures is encouraged as always. If you are unsure as to how to post pictures of your build on site then please contact Narses2 by Personal Message and he will go through it with you.

When posting your finished models in the Finished Builds Thread can you try and stick as closely as possible to the following format.

Title : By (entrants user name) : a brief description backstory/explanation (100 characters or so) : and a maximum of three pictures with a link to the build/progress thread. This will also apply to profiles/images.

Where members have written a story for their GB entry, they should post it in the Finished Builds Thread as normal.

Can members also refrain from posting any comments regarding entries within the Finished Builds Thread but use the link to the main build/progress thread page for these. This makes the Moderators task when it comes to organising the poll much simpler.

4.  Preparation work is allowed prior to the start of the GB but is limited to removal and cleaning up of parts from sprues, casting blocks or cutting out vacform parts from their backing sheet, even designing and printing your own decals.  The design and printing of 3D parts is also allowed, but no assembly. Anything involving modification of parts, test fitting, pre-painting and actual assembly is not allowed prior to the start of the GB, but see Rule 5 below.

5.  Part-started models may be used purely at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished, and this will be the Moderators decision. You must send pictures of the model you intend to use in the GB, along with a rough idea of what your plans for it are via a PM and their decision will be final. However, they must have been started prior to the current GB Season's themes being announced. We will be relying on the integrity of the membership to uphold this rule. If using a part started kit then this should be clearly stated at the beginning of your build thread.

Scrapped models that have been reduced to component parts or sections can be used, although you should check with the Moderators if you are not sure about the eligibility of those you intend to use. You can also use a completed sub-assembly taken from a kit which may have been previously assembled and which the whiffer wants to build into their GB entry. If in doubt, then as usual contact the Moderators with as much information as possible.

6.  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6? It's one rule or another so from now on it's 6.

7.  Moderators are X and Y. Thank you, gentlemen.

8.  The completed entries thread will be locked at the end of the GB and only those items posted prior to it being locked will be eligible for the vote. shortly afterwards the poll will be set up.  The number of votes per forum member will be based upon a ratio of one vote per three entries, rounded up or down to the nearest whole number.

In the event of a tie there will be no run-off. We will simply have a joint first place and then a third place (no second) this is to preserve the three into the Whiffies as detailed in Rule 9. Similarly, a three way tie will mean there is no second and third. (Please don't ask me about a four way tie !)

9.  The first three placed entries in the Group Build will automatically be nominated for a Whiffy in the specific Group Build Class.

Thank you for bearing with me whilst I got my brain around a couple of things and for your patience while I got it into words. Hopefully we're almost there now and we can use this as the framework for our forthcoming GB Season. My main aim in all of this is to try and keep the principle aim of the GB's to that of providing a broad common framework within which members can build.


Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Pellson

I think you've balanced the rule no 5 very well, Chris. Impressive!  :wub:
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

zenrat

Only one minor thing mate.  A typo in rule 5.

"at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished"

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on May 08, 2023, 04:32:13 AMOnly one minor thing mate.  A typo in rule 5.

"at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished"



Amended.

Thank you.  :thumbsup:  I've never got my brain around that at school or since. Indeed our English master, "Bert" (never to his face  :angel: ) Royal wasn't actually bothered about the use of to/too, he was much more interested in your overall use of English.  That and I took my "O" Level in the third year so haven't done formal English since I was 14. Oddly we were warned that our History "O" Level markers would probably be more interested in our use of English grammar than the English masters  :-\
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

McColm


Wardukw

Bloody nice work Chris..covers everything that I've seen .😁😁
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Rick Lowe

Works for me, thanks for you efforts.  :thumbsup:

kitbasher

Good stuff, Chris, thanks for taking the time to slap these into shape.

One teeny tiny suggestion for Rule 9; the GB Whiffy class is, I suggest, now accepted/established so amend ending of Rule 9 to read '...in the specific Group Build Class'?
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NARSES2

Quote from: kitbasher on May 09, 2023, 12:08:13 AMOne teeny tiny suggestion for Rule 9; the GB Whiffy class is, I suggest, now accepted/established so amend ending of Rule 9 to read '...in the specific Group Build Class'?

Yup, done. Thankyou  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Old Wombat

Quote from: NARSES2 on May 08, 2023, 03:05:42 AM6.  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6? It's one rule or another so from now on it's 6.

I think this should read:

6. There is no Rule 6! No, don't ask! The consequences are ... messy

 ;D  ;) !
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