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The Griffon Tigercat

Started by Wardukw, June 14, 2023, 11:56:29 AM

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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: Wardukw on June 15, 2023, 02:25:41 AMDizzy I was looking at a Shackleton only yesterday  ;D  ...a brand new 72nd Airfix one..yeah totally wrong scale but funny how you mentioned that 😄
With my luck trying to find a 48 scale Shackleton cheap it would be a miracle..something I would definitely not hold ya breath on .

Ah, it's a 1:48 build!? Sorry, did not get that... In 1:72 there are also resin Griffons (OzMods?) with underslung radiators available, IIRC for a Lincoln, and their diameter is almost the same as an R-2800...

perttime

Avro Shackleton installations aren't particularly pretty.

... do you happen to have a need for late model Spitfires or Seafires that need a different engine ...  :o

Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2023, 03:53:37 AMDoes anyone even MAKE a 1/48 Shackleton?  :o
I wish someone did Kit...would be a very cool thing to add to a 48th scale bomber collection.
Size wise ..it would about the same size as a Tamiya  Lancaster.

Dizzy mate when I was looking at that Shackleton the counter props was mentioned  ;D
I'm not sure what a Tigercat would like tho with Shackleton props..those could be to bloody big.
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kerick

This is going to look cool with five blade props!
Overall dark blue or RN two tone?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
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Wardukw

Quote from: kerick on June 15, 2023, 01:29:20 PMThis is going to look cool with five blade props!
Overall dark blue or RN two tone?
Oh gotta go with the RN two tone Ken..the two tone camouflage will look great on this  <_<
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Quote from: Wardukw on June 15, 2023, 01:32:48 PM
Quote from: kerick on June 15, 2023, 01:29:20 PMThis is going to look cool with five blade props!
Overall dark blue or RN two tone?
Oh gotta go with the RN two tone Ken..the two tone camouflage will look great on this  <_<
Looking forward to it!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Wardukw on June 15, 2023, 12:53:22 PMSize wise ..it would about the same size as a Tamiya  Lancaster.


Yeah, but with longer wings...................  ;D  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2023, 08:42:59 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on June 15, 2023, 12:53:22 PMSize wise ..it would about the same size as a Tamiya  Lancaster.


Yeah, but with longer wings...................  ;D  ;)
Hahaha 😆 😂
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

NARSES2

Annular radiators ? Or is that was the Shackleton has ? I know nothing about engines at all.
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Old Wombat

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 16, 2023, 06:13:51 AMAnnular radiators ? Or is that was the Shackleton has ? I know nothing about engines at all.

Not quite. Annular radiators are best known from the Fw.190D/Ta.152 & Ju.88** aircraft & are where the radiator is mounted around the propeller shaft.

Ta.152


Model of a Ta.152 showing it better (the radiator is in the cowling at the front of the engine)


Ju.88





[**: Jumo 211 powered aircraft, which is most of the bomber variants & some of the early fighter variants, later fighters & some bombers had BMW 801 radial engines]
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jcf

Both the Jumo and the BMW 801 engines used on the Ju 88 were in a "power egg" setup similar
to that used by Bristol. Junkers had pioneered the concept in Germany on the Ju 90 airliner. The
Junkers intent was that it would make the servicing and maintenance of airliner engines faster to
reduce the amount of time an aircraft would be out of service due to engine problems. 

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NARSES2

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McColm

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 15, 2023, 03:53:37 AMDoes anyone even MAKE a 1/48 Shackleton?  :o
Sanger does the Avro Shackleton in 1/48 scale: MR.1, MR.2 AEW.2 and and the MR.3. The vacform kits come with metal parts and decals.
They also do the Shackleton in 1/72 scale as well.

Wardukw

Mac I would hate to think of the cost for that model in 48th..the 72nd Shackleton is expensive enough here as it is ...but man it would be a damn cool thing to add to  collection 😊

Right to this build....took the pre start pics which I'll put up next week .
Made a start by gluing the wings together and the landing gear bays.
Now some thinking is going on here..im using the original landing gear bays because of a couple of things...mounting the Griffons on to where the old engines where ..it would make sense to keep the original land gear as it's a bloody expensive and time consuming job to have to design..build..test and test a brand new landing gear just because of a engine swap.
The second thing is now a right pain in my arse..because now I've done myself no favors at all...ive gotta try to blend the Griffons onto the original engine mounts and make it look good.
I've been trying to think of ways to do it and 3 hrs later ...nope nothing yet 😕
It will click that's for sure ...I can promise you  guys that 🥺
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Wardukw

Right ..pics to follow next week..update time.
The engines are mounted..PSRed and the wings will soon be attached to the fuselage.
Painted the cockpit so I could glue the sides together.
It's not going to be long before this thing ends up with  paint on it.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .