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The Bv 148, Dr Vogt's 'conventional' version of the Bv 141 - DONE

Started by PR19_Kit, July 08, 2023, 03:11:24 PM

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Wardukw

Oh a feeling i am about to know all to well myself in the near future ...if everything goes to plan  ;D
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The Wooksta!

You could go for twin fin and out a proper tail turret there.  Sure I have a resin back end somewhere that could be repurposed.  If not, the mould may lurk in a drawer.

I may have to scrounge a nose glazing if you have one spare?
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: The Wooksta! on July 13, 2023, 04:02:35 AMI may have to scrounge a nose glazing if you have one spare?


I have, unless the one in use cracks when I saw bit out of it. But I'm confident it'll be OK.
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Weaver

Interesting... somewhere in this thing's development history, there has to be a horribly comic accident in which the cockpit pod comes un-fastened and starts rotating with the blades... ;D

My thought on a twin-engined Bv 141 was always to put a pusher engine on the back of the cockpit pod. It'd need to be water-cooled, of course, and the other one should probably match it, but that's nothing that a pair of sacrificial Fw 190Ds couldn't provide... :wacko:
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2023, 07:09:45 AMInteresting... somewhere in this thing's development history, there has to be a horribly comic accident in which the cockpit pod comes un-fastened and starts rotating with the blades... ;D


Don't think that hasn't occurred to me while trying to figure out how to model it with the props being able to rotate!  :o

But I think I've figured it out.............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rheged

Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2023, 07:09:45 AMInteresting... somewhere in this thing's development history, there has to be a horribly comic accident in which the cockpit pod comes un-fastened and starts rotating with the blades... ;D


I believe that this phenomenon is known as either "gerbilling"  or "hamster wheeling"    and results in a terminally dizzy pilot and  vastly amused onlookers (from a safe distance).  Air brakes deployed from either side of the cockpit pod might possibly save the day.   Hopefully the potential incident happened during ground running.
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Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 15, 2023, 07:14:33 AM
Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2023, 07:09:45 AMInteresting... somewhere in this thing's development history, there has to be a horribly comic accident in which the cockpit pod comes un-fastened and starts rotating with the blades... ;D


Don't think that hasn't occurred to me while trying to figure out how to model it with the props being able to rotate!  :o

But I think I've figured it out.............

There's a relatively easy way to do it, but then you lose the ability to stop one engine... ;)
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
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 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

It may only have one engine eventually, I haven't decided yet.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 16, 2023, 01:50:27 AMIt may only have one engine eventually, I haven't decided yet.

In that case, you could do it like this:

A wide-diameter, rigid, fixed tube joins the front and back fuselages. The props rotate around the tube.

The engine drives the rear prop via an offset shaft and a ring gear on the back of the prop.

The rear prop has another ring gear on the front of it, which drives a set of pinions on fixed stub axles located around the tube.

The pinions drive another ring gear on the back of the front prop.

Lubrication and sealing are 'interesting'...

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 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

That's pretty much how I was thinking of doing it, yes.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

The easier port wing is done structurally, and the landing gear retains the same track as the Bv 141.  ;D

Some PSR to do obviously, and I may file off ALL the original rivets and scribe some panel lines, much though I detest doing that.  My trusty razor saw and big flat file are putting in some sterling work on this job, I can tell you!

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The port wing still has some work to be done, but the work is pretty much the same, just with more parts needed for the root extension.

The fuselage work awaits some plastic tubing to go further, I don't have the right size to hand at the mo. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!

"It's basically a cure -  for not being an axe-wielding homicidal maniac. The potential market's enormous!"

"Visit Scarfolk today!"
https://scarfolk.blogspot.com/

"Dance, dance, dance, dance, dance to the radio!"

The Plan:
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PR19_Kit

Yeah, I figured as much, the ones on the tailplane will be missing on one side though, as the added half will be upside down.  ;D

That's a very good pic, thanks. A pity they didn't take it from a bit further back, and they'd have got all the wings in too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

That's looking great Kit...some nice plastic surgery that 👍 😀
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .