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August 05, 2023, 07:30:15 AM Last Edit: September 14, 2023, 10:38:19 AM by Vostoc7
The Avro Stockport will be a jet engined version of the Lancaster  ;D

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Rheged

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August 05, 2023, 07:39:57 AM
The Lancaster has form as a jet test-bed   I assume that the  Stockport  built on this research:-    https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37719.msg780261#msg780261.  This will definitely be a thread worth returning to !
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August 05, 2023, 11:55:34 AM
Lancasters and Lancastrians were used quite extensively as engine test beds. I've got a couple of conversion sets myself.

I also live in Stockport and spent 10 years working at Woodford, so I'll be watching this thread with more than the usual interest. :thumbsup:
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Wardukw

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August 05, 2023, 02:07:59 PM
I'm gonna be a watching this I is ..haa huh ..yep  ;D
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August 06, 2023, 07:50:18 AM
Quote from: Rheged on August 05, 2023, 07:39:57 AMThe Lancaster has form as a jet test-bed  I assume that the  Stockport  built on this research:-    https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37719.msg780261#msg780261.  This will definitely be a thread worth returning to !

Many thanks for the link, I'll do my best with this but don't get your hopes up too much  ;D  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on August 05, 2023, 11:55:34 AMLancasters and Lancastrians were used quite extensively as engine test beds. I've got a couple of conversion sets myself.

I also live in Stockport and spent 10 years working at Woodford, so I'll be watching this thread with more than the usual interest. :thumbsup:

Not come across any Lanc jet conversion sets? was going to make up my own thing?  :o  ;D

I was born in Stockport but had to go south for college & work, but I did visit the Woodford works when I was in the Scouts, amazing place  :thumbsup:
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Weaver

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August 06, 2023, 11:12:00 AM Last Edit: August 06, 2023, 11:15:38 AM by Weaver
Quote from: Vostoc7 on August 06, 2023, 07:50:18 AM
Quote from: Rheged on August 05, 2023, 07:39:57 AMThe Lancaster has form as a jet test-bed  I assume that the  Stockport  built on this research:-    https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37719.msg780261#msg780261.  This will definitely be a thread worth returning to !

Many thanks for the link, I'll do my best with this but don't get your hopes up too much  ;D  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on August 05, 2023, 11:55:34 AMLancasters and Lancastrians were used quite extensively as engine test beds. I've got a couple of conversion sets myself.

I also live in Stockport and spent 10 years working at Woodford, so I'll be watching this thread with more than the usual interest. :thumbsup:

Not come across any Lanc jet conversion sets? was going to make up my own thing?  :o  ;D

I was born in Stockport but had to go south for college & work, but I did visit the Woodford works when I was in the Scouts, amazing place  :thumbsup:
Quote from: Vostoc7 on August 06, 2023, 07:50:18 AM
Quote from: Rheged on August 05, 2023, 07:39:57 AMThe Lancaster has form as a jet test-bed  I assume that the  Stockport  built on this research:-    https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=37719.msg780261#msg780261.  This will definitely be a thread worth returning to !

Many thanks for the link, I'll do my best with this but don't get your hopes up too much  ;D  :thumbsup:

Quote from: Weaver on August 05, 2023, 11:55:34 AMLancasters and Lancastrians were used quite extensively as engine test beds. I've got a couple of conversion sets myself.

I also live in Stockport and spent 10 years working at Woodford, so I'll be watching this thread with more than the usual interest. :thumbsup:

Not come across any Lanc jet conversion sets? was going to make up my own thing?  :o  ;D

I was born in Stockport but had to go south for college & work, but I did visit the Woodford works when I was in the Scouts, amazing place  :thumbsup:

One of my sets is made by Combat Kits and is a conversion from a Lancaster to a Lancastrian with RR Nenes in place of both outer engines. The other one is a standard Lancastrian conversion without the jets, and I don't know who made it: it's just in a plastic bag with no instructions. I've also got a set that adds the Viper auxiliary jets to the outer nacelles of a Shackleton. What I had in mind was some sort of 'hot rod' Lanc, with a Lancastrian fuselage mated to Shackleton wings with their Griffons and Vipers.

When I first walked into the Woodford main assembly hall, I got some serious vertigo from the sheer size of it, and that lasted for some days after I started. It always rather saddened me that that sense of wonder went away so quickly, to be honest.
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PR19_Kit

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August 06, 2023, 12:05:59 PM
Quote from: Weaver on August 06, 2023, 11:12:00 AMThe other one is a standard Lancastrian conversion without the jets, and I don't know who made it: it's just in a plastic bag with no instructions.


I've got one of them too,  The same firm did an FAA Jetstream trainer conversion too, I think they were called K&P or similar.
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kitbasher

#7
August 06, 2023, 12:14:33 PM
M&E, Kit.  Now Brigade Models.

And I like the Avon show pic, I see at maybe 6 of my builds on the table.  Glad to be supporting the SIG in absentia.
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PR19_Kit

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August 06, 2023, 02:22:23 PM
Quote from: kitbasher on August 06, 2023, 12:14:33 PMM&E, Kit.  Now Brigade Models.

And I like the Avon show pic, I see at maybe 6 of my builds on the table.  Glad to be supporting the SIG in absentia.


Ah! I knew it was just initials anyway.  ;D

Yes, there was quite a bit of interest in some of yours, specially the Spitfire Twin, which most commenters assumed was some sort of a Whirlwind kit-bash.  We soon sorted them out.  ;D
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
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The Wooksta!

#9
August 06, 2023, 02:37:45 PM
There was a Lancastrian conversion from S&M, which was just resin nose and tail fairings in a bag, albeit quite delicate hollowcasts.   There was another one similar, but more primitive. I've a feeling the master forthat was the M&E one, assembled and dropped into rubber.

Magna did something a bit more comprehensive, including decals for Alitalia.
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loupgarou

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August 06, 2023, 02:56:29 PM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 06, 2023, 02:37:45 PMThere was a Lancastrian conversion from S&M, which was just resin nose and tail fairings in a bag, albeit quite delicate hollowcasts.   There was another one similar, but more primitive. I've a feeling the master forthat was the M&E one, assembled and dropped into rubber.

Magna did something a bit more comprehensive, including decals for Alitalia.

In the good old days, Sutcliffe had a Lancastrian conversion, possibly in a sheet with other conversions, IIRC
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The Wooksta!

#11
August 06, 2023, 02:59:11 PM
The bad old days, you mean. That conversion was VERY rough and it's be easier, quicker and more accurate to whittle and sand lumps of balsa to the requisite shapes.

Thinking it was on his original York conversion, and by Cliff it's fecking rough!
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loupgarou

#12
August 06, 2023, 03:04:23 PM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on August 06, 2023, 02:59:11 PMThe bad old days, you mean. That conversion was VERY rough and it's be easier, quicker and more accurate to whittle and sand lumps of balsa to the requisite shapes.

Thinking it was on his original York conversion, and by Cliff it's fecking rough!

Could have been. I had assembled the York fuselage and sanded all the rivets from the ancient Airfix Lanc wings...   :rolleyes:
Built the Lancastrian as Alitalia and later (20 years ago ?) even managed to sell the York material  ;D
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

Vulcan7

#13
August 20, 2023, 11:07:21 AM
Done the basic build, the turret guns will be remote control....

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PR19_Kit

#14
August 20, 2023, 11:37:57 AM
Oooh those engines look good, how did you do them?

And the dihedral tailplane is a essential inspiration too!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit
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