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Boulton Paul Defiant mk.3b

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The Rat

#15
September 11, 2023, 03:15:15 PM
Brilliant!  :thumbsup:
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Old Wombat

#16
September 12, 2023, 04:01:46 AM
The Defiant had a fairly thick chord on the wings, fitting 20mm's shouldn't prove too difficult.*





[*: Less rounds needed to make the kill! ;) ]
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RAFF-35

#17
September 12, 2023, 10:31:13 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on September 12, 2023, 04:01:46 AMThe Defiant had a fairly thick chord on the wings, fitting 20mm's shouldn't prove too difficult.*





[*: Less rounds needed to make the kill! ;) ]

20mm would be cool, I was just worried that the added weight would limit performance. But you make a good point about needing less rounds though 🤔
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Wardukw

#18
September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PM
More weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
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NARSES2

#19
September 15, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PMMore weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D

Thinking exactly the same thing  :thumbsup:  Mind you I have a couple of Sabres in the stash  ;D
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#20
September 15, 2023, 03:31:02 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 15, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PMMore weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D

Thinking exactly the same thing  :thumbsup:  Mind you I have a couple of Sabres in the stash  ;D
I've got a beautiful Airfix Defiant Chris and now I've gotta find a very cheap Griffon Spitfire again ..damn it  :banghead: 😀...hmmm I've a idea 💡 🤔 😄
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Mossie

#21
October 01, 2023, 11:58:36 AM
Nice!   :thumbsup:  Another Defiant variant fan here.  I started two fixed armament versions but never finished them.

There was a mixed turret/fixed 20mm proposed as night fighter, the P.96. It was scaled up from the Defiant with a larger wing and both Centaurus and Sabre powerplants were investigated.
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loupgarou

#22
October 01, 2023, 01:28:54 PM
Very good and logical development for a pretty airframe !
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kitbasher

#23
October 01, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 15, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PMMore weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D

Thinking exactly the same thing  :thumbsup:  Mind you I have a couple of Sabres in the stash  ;D

Sabres?  Then you're on your way to a B-P P.96.

Assuming you mean the engine not the F-86 😉
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Doug K

#24
October 02, 2023, 12:09:45 AM
Quote from: RAFF-35 on September 11, 2023, 02:35:50 PM
Quote from: Doug K on September 11, 2023, 02:15:48 PM
Quote from: RAFF-35 on August 23, 2023, 01:51:13 PMOriginally designed as a bomber destroyer, then later found fame as a night fighter until being out-classed by the Bristol Beaufighter and DH Mosquito. The Defiant was then trialled as a  ground attack/close support aircraft in the North African theatre. The design's major shortcoming was addressed and the Mk.3 was equipped with two forward firing Browning .303's which allowed it to be more capable of defending its self. Further modifications include the addition of two wing hard points which could be used to carry either bombs or fuel tanks. There were also slight aerodynamic refinements including retractable tail wheel. The Defiant mk.3 was most successful in south east Asia where crews used the unique turreted design and developed the "radius attack" (later known as the pylon turn) to attack Japanese convoys and protect allied ground forces in turn.

Excellent! As has been noted elsewhere I have an unhealthy liking for Defiants 😉

A fellow Daffy fan! There's so much potential for whiffery with that airframe! I'm planning to do an NF.Mk.iii at some point, what do you think?

Totally!

Doug K

#25
October 02, 2023, 12:14:52 AM Last Edit: October 02, 2023, 12:19:23 AM by Doug K
Quote from: kitbasher on October 01, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 15, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PMMore weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D

Thinking exactly the same thing  :thumbsup:  Mind you I have a couple of Sabres in the stash  ;D

Sabres?  Then you're on your way to a B-P P.96.

Assuming you mean the engine not the F-86 😉

I had the same thought  ;D

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NARSES2

#26
October 02, 2023, 07:23:28 AM
Quote from: kitbasher on October 01, 2023, 11:31:30 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 15, 2023, 07:08:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on September 12, 2023, 01:45:03 PMMore weight ? Add more power ..Griffon power  ;D

Thinking exactly the same thing  :thumbsup:  Mind you I have a couple of Sabres in the stash  ;D

Sabres?  Then you're on your way to a B-P P.96.

Assuming you mean the engine not the F-86 😉

Something to muse on post Telford, and yes I do mean the engine just to clarify matters  ;)
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