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Supermarine Speagle - REALLY done!

Started by PR19_Kit, August 31, 2023, 08:54:55 AM

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Vulcan7

Great idea, you can't beat a Spit build ;D  :mellow:  :mellow:  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
"My grandad fought in WW1 and used to make Mosquito wings in WW2"

buzzbomb

A slicker Spit... what is not to like

PR19_Kit

Quote from: jcf on September 01, 2023, 02:24:23 PMAlso, it's far too American of a solution.  :angel:


Exactly..............  ;D

All sorts of other aeroplanes were used as engine test beds, during WWII and afterwards, but that never seemed to happen to a Spitfire, they always had Merlins or Griffons. I thought I'd change history a bit.  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: jcf on September 01, 2023, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: kerick on September 01, 2023, 02:17:09 PMOh just put a triangular piece in front of the tail like the Mustang.
That just won't do, dear boy, it'd be much too angular and wouldn't flow smoothly into the rounded fin.

Also, it's far too American of a solution.  :angel:

They did that with the prototype MkV Tempest and it's... not the best look... I've heard the term 'Fugly' used (in my head, at least!  ;) )

Wardukw

Quote from: buzzbomb on September 01, 2023, 03:41:11 PMA slicker Spit... what is not to like

Absoloutley nothing to hate about that ..the super slick Spit would look amazing .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

zenrat

Quote from: Rick Lowe on September 01, 2023, 04:11:12 PM
Quote from: jcf on September 01, 2023, 02:24:23 PM
Quote from: kerick on September 01, 2023, 02:17:09 PMOh just put a triangular piece in front of the tail like the Mustang.
That just won't do, dear boy, it'd be much too angular and wouldn't flow smoothly into the rounded fin.

Also, it's far too American of a solution.  :angel:

They did that with the prototype MkV Tempest and it's... not the best look... I've heard the term 'Fugly' used (in my head, at least!  ;) )

Got a 1/48 Spit fin?
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kerick

Just take a piece of aluminum and fold it in half and you're done!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Having worked out how long the prop-spinner assembly will be, in order to line up properly, I think this Spit will need a LOT of ballast in the tail to keep its CG in the proper place!

It's not looking too bad though.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

How difficult would it be to lengthen the tail a little?
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kerick on September 02, 2023, 08:17:42 AMHow difficult would it be to lengthen the tail a little?


Not easy, and it would lose the inherent 'Spitfire-ness'of the shape. But I could extend the fin rearwards, as well as adding the dorsal fin. That might do it.

Luckily ballast weights are invisible in WhiffWorld.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

#26
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 02, 2023, 09:27:36 AM
Quote from: kerick on September 02, 2023, 08:17:42 AMHow difficult would it be to lengthen the tail a little?


Not easy, and it would lose the inherent 'Spitfire-ness'of the shape. But I could extend the fin rearwards, as well as adding the dorsal fin. That might do it.

Luckily ballast weights are invisible in WhiffWorld.  ;D
Of course one could take the Kurt Tank approach, slice off the tail, throw in a biscuit tin, and when that isn't enough add some planks to the vertical fin.
;D :wacko:

jcf

Make the vertical taller as well as broader?

sandiego89

Hope the flight manual told the pilot to go easy on the brakes!   

nice!
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

perttime

#29
Quote from: jcf on September 02, 2023, 10:08:28 AMMake the vertical taller as well as broader?
Tricky with the rounded shapes?
I suppose one could add material between fin and rudder to extend back and up - but then the rudder itself would need extending. It is pretty vertical at tailplane level.

Oh.... Landing gear.
Looks like 391, like Spiteful, was to have main wheels fold inwards  :mellow:  :wacko: