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Anti-submarine SV-22 Osprey in retro PBJ-1H/J colors?

Started by seadude, September 24, 2023, 01:11:42 PM

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NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on December 23, 2023, 04:29:35 AMWould an anti submarine Osprey drop weapons on a submarine or would it just crash on top of it?

Tut - tut  :rolleyes:
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Scotaidh

Quote from: zenrat on December 23, 2023, 04:29:35 AMWould an anti submarine Osprey drop weapons on a submarine or would it just crash on top of it?

So long as the sub is destroyed, since an Osprey is cheaper than a sub it's still a good trade
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seadude

Quote from: seadude on December 15, 2023, 01:26:00 PMQuestion time. ;)
Going back to these two links here and looking at the pictures of both models:
http://www.arcair.com/Gal6/5901-6000/gal5921-PBJ-1H-Mucaro/00.shtm
http://www.arcair.com/Gal16/15601-15700/gal15631-PBJ-1J-Langley/00.shtm
.............there's like a feathered/blurred edge between the dark sea blue color and the intermediate blue color. Same between the intermediate blue and the white.
I don't own an airbrush and can't use one for various reasons that would help create that feathered edge between colors.
So what other options are there to create that feathered/blurred edge?

Earlier on Page 2 of this thread, I had mentioned the above quoted post.
I've recently begun to think about the following:
The V-22 I have is 1/72 scale. If it were 1/48, 1/32, or larger, the feathered edges between colors would be needed and noticeable.
But as a model aircraft gets smaller (1/72, 1/144, etc.), I have to wonder if the feathered edges are really necessary? Would they still be noticeable? Probably if you're using a magnifying glass to look at the model, but not so much if you're standing far away.
So I've been giving thought to if I should still add them on a 1/72 scale aircraft?
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

kerick

I've seen RW aircraft where the feathered edge was hard to see at much of a distance. I say don't worry about it. Just give it your best you can and I'm sure it will be fine.
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Beermonster58

#34
Quote from: seadude on December 15, 2023, 01:26:00 PMQuestion time. ;)
Going back to these two links here and looking at the pictures of both models:
http://www.arcair.com/Gal6/5901-6000/gal5921-PBJ-1H-Mucaro/00.shtm
http://www.arcair.com/Gal16/15601-15700/gal15631-PBJ-1J-Langley/00.shtm
.............there's like a feathered/blurred edge between the dark sea blue color and the intermediate blue color. Same between the intermediate blue and the white.
I don't own an airbrush and can't use one for various reasons that would help create that feathered edge between colors.
So what other options are there to create that feathered/blurred edge?

Not being sarcastic or anything but, why even bother? Why not just opt for a hard edge instead. Much simpler ;)  <. In any case, would a "feathered" edge really be all that prominent in a small scale? Certainly, it would look very smart whichever option you choose.
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kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

sandiego89

I'd go for a Japanese version, fantastic blues on some of their modern aircraft. 
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

seadude

Quote from: kerick on July 06, 2024, 09:05:25 PMAny progress on this interesting project?

Nothing currently.

Quote from: sandiego89 on July 07, 2024, 07:52:17 AMI'd go for a Japanese version, fantastic blues on some of their modern aircraft. 

I've seen a Japanese version. Picture below. It's nice, but my heart is really set on doing an American version instead with a retro WW2 PBJ-1H/J blue Navy or Marine Corps scheme.
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

seadude

Getting back to this topic..............
I've already contacted a Mod to eventually have it moved into the AIRCRAFT sub-group in the Current & Finished Builds forum.
And now...........
Not really liking this very old kit.  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Badly fitting parts.
Poor instructions.
Lousy detail on the parts.
Is this always the case with AMT/Ertl kits?  :o
Can't say I like the choice of the parts being molded in a silver/gray plastic. Who the hell thought that up?  :o
But...........I'm going to try and finish this model to the best of my ability. Specifications are still the same such as painting it in a retro PBJ-1H/J WW2 scheme.
The model will be built pretty much straight from the box except for the color scheme.
I really don't have the money or other resources to spend on detailing and improving this kit.














Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

kerick

I'm pretty sure I have had that kit on the shelf for years and haven't touched it. I do have a plan for using the wings and rotors on a Cheyenne helicopter.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Rick Lowe

For some reason or another* I have *two* in the stash and only a very nebulous idea for one... :banghead:

*very likely I found them for 'cheap'... but if you don't use it, it's still too expensive.
In my defence, IIRC I'd just read Dale Brown's 'Hammerheads'...

NARSES2

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seadude

And a few more pics.
You can clearly see where I've puttied some seams with Perfect Plastic Putty.
I left the rear cargo ramp/door closed. There's nothing to see inside anyway as the interior is plain and boring.
Started to paint a few things already like the rotor blades, landing gear, and landing gear bays.










Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

seadude

#44
So like I've probably mentioned in past posts, I'm going to try and paint this model in a retro WW2 scheme that US Navy and/or Marine Corps PBJ-1H/J Mitchells had.
This being:
Darker US Navy Sea Blue on top/upper portions of the aircraft.
Medium Intermediate Blue on middle portions of the aircraft.
Underside surfaces to be white (or Insignia White?)
I'll be using the following Vallejo Model Air Color paints:
71.001 White (or 71.279 Insignia White)
71.299 Intermediate Blue
71.295 US Navy Sea Blue

But here's my problem:
Were the undersides painted a regular pure white? Or was it an "insignia white" which seems to have a slight tint to it. Almost like a very light cream color.
As I've done research in past months, I've gotten a lot of conflicting answers. Can anybody help out?




Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.