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Ju 588

Started by PR19_Kit, October 03, 2023, 05:55:11 AM

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63cpe

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on December 10, 2024, 11:56:50 PM
Quote from: 63cpe on December 10, 2024, 07:44:11 AM
Quote from: Dizzyfugu on December 10, 2024, 03:42:27 AMPSR, PSR, PSR...  ;D

I saw you did an Ju-588 aswell, Dizzy. Looks great!

David aka 63CPE

No, I didn't? IIRC I posted a pic from a friend's build, based on two Ju 188s, many moons ago? But that was not originally mine.

Ah, Ok. Clear.

PR19_Kit

Having already done the port wing of the 588, and solved numerous problems in the process, I thought doing the starboard wing in like fashion be a case of copying my previously discovered methods, but no.......... :(

I just couldn't remember how I'd lined up the inboard main engines and the resin outboard ones, and they have to be parallel or they'll look silly. With mucho filing and LOTS of masking tape to position the nacelles I finally managed it, and it looks as if it won't look too different to the other wing.

Here's hoping anyway, but I still have to attach the outer half........

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

And at last the major graft on the starboard wing is done. Lots of superglue involved of course and not a few swear words as well, but it's basically all assembled now. Lots of filing and PSR to go of course, plus that extra skin panel underneath, but at least it means you can see what the whole model will look like when it's done.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

So very cool mate  ;D
It's a Junkers and it has many engines..oh happy days  :thumbsup:  :thumbsup:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

Now the starboard wing is in the PSR stage, which will take a LONG time I'm sure, I've started on all the other bits and pieces that the 588 will need.

I figured that as it has such HUGE engines, the DB610 coupled V-24s had a capacity of 71 litres (4365 cu ins for NASCAR fans....) and shoved out 2950 bhp each, and the 588 had FOUR of them, the torque reaction would be horrendous! The He 177 used similar engines and they were 'handed', which made sense, but for some reason the 288 didn't, no idea why. That meant the kit props on my 588 weren't 'handed', but that wasn't too difficult to fix, I just twisted the blades the other way round and filed the profiles a tad.  ;D

But of course I only had two props, and trying to find some add-on props for a Ju 288 was impossible, and those for an He 177 were almost impossible. They were 'out of stock' anyway, so I needed a Plan B. The Big H had a few resin prop sets from AML that looked usable, which were some 4 bladers for an He 219 night fighter, so I bought a couple of sets to try.



They came with a neat jig thingie to ensure the blades were glued at the correct angle, which was fine for one of my new props, but not for the other, but nothing that a little skill couldn't overcome.  ;)

Now I've got four props that are almost the same as each other, two RH ones and two LH ones, and the plan is to have the resin props on the outboard resin engines and the plastic kit props on the inboard engines, each having opposite rotation to it's pair on the same side. Logical I hope.



The backstory will explain that the outer engines were slightly lower rated than the inboards as they were only used for take-off and 'over the target dash' speeds, and would otherwise be shut down on the long trans-Atlantic crossing with the props feathered.

Yeah, right.........  ;D

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rheged

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 22, 2024, 02:06:32 AMThe backstory will explain that the outer engines were slightly lower rated than the inboards as they were only used for take-off and 'over the target dash' speeds, and would otherwise be shut down on the long trans-Atlantic crossing with the props feathered.

Yeah, right.........  ;D

A perfect example of Rule Two  being applied.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rheged on December 22, 2024, 07:01:09 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 22, 2024, 02:06:32 AMThe backstory will explain that the outer engines were slightly lower rated than the inboards as they were only used for take-off and 'over the target dash' speeds, and would otherwise be shut down on the long trans-Atlantic crossing with the props feathered.

Yeah, right.........  ;D

A perfect example of Rule Two  being applied.


Exactly.  :thumbsup:

Especially as I haven't even started writing the backstory yet, but various elements of it have taken up holding positions in my head.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

I found I'd got the outer part off the starboard wing glued on too far forward and at the wrong angle when I looked at it in daylight.  :banghead:

So I snapped it off, filed it a bit and re-glued it. Ye gods, but that superglue was strong! I had the DEVIL of a job snapping it off!

Right now there's LOTS o putty drying out............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Captain Canada

Loving the look of this one ! Great stuff.
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?

NARSES2

Quote from: Captain Canada on December 22, 2024, 03:49:00 PMLoving the look of this one ! Great stuff.

"Tis looking good  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Wardukw

If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

I'm approaching double figures for the number of PSR sessions I've needed for the wings.  :banghead:

The engine nacelles are almost the perfect shape to match the upper surface of the B-24 wings, but the operative word here is 'almost'................

Luckily the wing-fuselage joint works pretty well, and the port wing is already glued in place. The starboard one my join it later today.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

I had hoped to glue the 588's starboard wing on last night, but M'box's idea of a 'wing fit' for the Privateer's wing is RUBBISH.  :banghead:

While the port wing fitted a treat, at the correct dihedral angle, the starboard one has about 15 degrees dihedral! The lower half of the wing is maybe 1.5 mm longer than the upper half, and it wouldn't have fitted the Privateer's fuselage either, let alone the 588's. After LOTS of filing, and failing, I resorted to packing pieces glued to the upper wing half, and I'll no doubt need lots of PSR on the joint later........... :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Damn this is turning into a monster of a build  Kit ..im sure it's going to be well worth all this effort.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

It looks pretty much as I intended when it's plugged together anyway.

It's the gap filling superglue next on the agenda I think..............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit