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The Rules

Started by NARSES2, October 19, 2023, 06:12:58 AM

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Provisional rules for the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB are below.

Any questions raise them here please.

1.  The Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB begins 00:01 01/11/2023  and ends 23:59 31/01/2024 (all times local).  An extension may/may not be considered/granted according to demand,

2.  Physical models of any scale, profiles, and/or stories are eligible, but they must be a whiff of one, two, or all three of the following aircraft (or aircraft developed from them):
The Blackburn Buccaneer.
The HS Harrier  (including any member of the Harrier family including Sea Harrier, BA/MD AV-8B/Gr.5/7/9 etc)
The Bae/Sepecat Jaguar

Entries can be as simple or as complex as you wish. If in doubt as to what is included in the GB then please PM the Moderators.

3.  You may build, draw or write as many entries as you like (good luck!).  The posting of in-progress pictures is encouraged as always. If you are unsure as to how to post pictures of your build on site then please contact Narses2 by Personal Message and he will go through it with you.

When posting your finished models in the Finished Builds Thread can you try and stick as closely as possible to the following format.

Title : By (entrants user name) : a brief description backstory/explanation (100 characters or so) : and a maximum of three pictures with a link to the build/progress thread. This will also apply to profiles/images.

Where members have written a story for their GB entry, they should post it in the Finished Builds Thread as normal.

Can members also refrain from posting any comments regarding entries within the Finished Builds Thread but use the link to the main build/progress thread page for these. This makes the Moderators task when it comes to organising the poll much simpler.

4.  Preparation work is allowed prior to the start of the GB but is limited to removal and cleaning up of parts from sprues, casting blocks or cutting out vacform parts from their backing sheet, even designing and printing your own decals.  The design and printing of 3D parts is also allowed, but no assembly. Anything involving modification of parts, test fitting, pre-painting and actual assembly is not allowed prior to the start of the GB, but see Rule 5 below.

5.  Part-started models may be used purely at the discretion of the Moderators providing they are not too close to being finished, and this will be the Moderators decision. You must send pictures of the model you intend to use in the GB, along with a rough idea of what your plans for it are via a PM and their decision will be final. However, they must have been started prior to the current GB Season's themes being announced. We will be relying on the integrity of the membership to uphold this rule. If using a part started kit then this should be clearly stated at the beginning of your build thread.

Scrapped models that have been reduced to component parts or sections can be used, although you should check with the Moderators if you are not sure about the eligibility of those you intend to use. You can also use a completed sub-assembly taken from a kit which may have been previously assembled and which the whiffer wants to build into their GB entry. If in doubt, then as usual contact the Moderators with as much information as possible.

6.  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6? It's one rule or another so from now on it's 6.

7.  Moderators are PR19 Kit and Aeroplane Driver. Thank you, gentlemen.

8.  The completed entries thread will be locked at the end of the GB and only those items posted prior to it being locked will be eligible for the vote. shortly afterwards the poll will be set up.  The number of votes per forum member will be based upon a ratio of one vote per three entries, rounded up or down to the nearest whole number.

In the event of a tie there will be no run-off. We will simply have a joint first place and then a third place (no second) this is to preserve the three into the Whiffies as detailed in Rule 9. Similarly, a three way tie will mean there is no second and third. (Please don't ask me about a four way tie !)

9.  The first three placed entries in the Group Build will automatically be nominated for a Whiffy in the specific Group Build Class.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

zenrat

#1
:thumbsup:

Hopefully I can pre-empt discussions re eligibility by editing a post from the Lightning Hunter Canberra GB:

Some one will ask "What percentage of the donor  Buccaneer, Harrier and/or Jaguar is passable for this GB?

The answer is...

...it depends.

If the aim is to build a BH or J (or BHJ derivative/prototype) then the answer is none.  You can use anything and everything to create it.  No actual Buccaneer, Harrier or Jaguar parts are needed.
For example, it would be acceptable to chop up and combine a Mitsubishi F1 and a Mirage F1 and call the result a SuperJag.

If the aim is to build something that is not a BH or J using BH or J parts then the answer is "a significant amount".  How much a significant amount is is decided by the mods so run your plans past them and they will deem them acceptable or not.
As a rough guide, using a Buccaneer arrestor hook as the hood ornament on a Hot Rod that contains no other BH or J parts would not be acceptable while cutting the wings off s Harrier and turning the fuselage into a motorbike would be OK.
Don't forget that if using B and/or H and/or J parts then the resulting whiff does not have to be a BH or J.  If you want to build a Sopwith Camel out of a Jaguar then you can.


HTH  :mellow:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Leading Observer

I presume longer wings are an acceptable option ;D
LO


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scooter

Quote from: zenrat on October 20, 2023, 04:40:43 AMDon't forget that if using B and/or H and/or J parts then the resulting whiff does not have to be a BH or J.  If you want to build a Sopwith Camel out of a Jaguar then you can.


HTH  :mellow:


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sandiego89

Quote from: NARSES2 on October 19, 2023, 06:12:58 AMProvisional rules for the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB are below......

The HS Harrier.....


Recommend amended to:

The HS Harrier (including any member of the Harrier family including Sea Harrier, BA/MD AV-8B/Gr.5/7/9 etc)

The rest looks great
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Wardukw

Reading what Fred posted has my brain all a tingle..Mirage 2000 converted into a super Jag  :wacko:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: sandiego89 on October 20, 2023, 01:26:17 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on October 19, 2023, 06:12:58 AMProvisional rules for the Buccaneer, Harrier and Jaguar GB are below......

The HS Harrier.....


Recommend amended to:

The HS Harrier (including any member of the Harrier family including Sea Harrier, BA/MD AV-8B/Gr.5/7/9 etc)

The rest looks great

Yup, I'll do that now  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

McColm

Do the aircraft that we are building have to stick with the fixed wings?

Rheged

Quote from: McColm on October 21, 2023, 07:29:02 AMDo the aircraft that we are building have to stick with the fixed wings?

I'd be fascinated to see a Jaguarnithoper!!   I can't imagine what a rotary wing Harrier would look like, but if you can do it, why not!
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

loupgarou

Hmmm.... a submarine Buccaneer wth magnetohydrodynamic propulsion..... like Red October
Owing to the current financial difficulties, the light at the end of the tunnel will be turned off until further notice.

Wardukw

If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Old Wombat

Quote from: loupgarou on October 21, 2023, 09:33:56 AMHmmm.... a submarine Buccaneer wth magnetohydrodynamic propulsion..... like Red October

Stop reading my mind! :angry:

Now, where's that bloody tin-foil hat? :-\
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

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Wardukw

Quote from: Old Wombat on October 22, 2023, 02:12:33 AM
Quote from: loupgarou on October 21, 2023, 09:33:56 AMHmmm.... a submarine Buccaneer wth magnetohydrodynamic propulsion..... like Red October

Stop reading my mind! :angry:

Now, where's that bloody tin-foil hat? :-\
Make it a pirate sub and then who'd have a Buccaneer with a Buccaneer  :wacko:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

ysi_maniac

I assume that inspiration in Mitsubishi F-1 and T-2 are valid. :unsure:
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