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The Rules

Started by NARSES2, October 19, 2023, 06:12:58 AM

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perttime

Quote from: McColm on October 21, 2023, 07:29:02 AMDo the aircraft that we are building have to stick with the fixed wings?
Jaguar turned into an attack helicopter!  :thumbsup:  :wub:

PR19_Kit

Quote from: ysi_maniac on October 24, 2023, 11:16:55 PMI assume that inspiration in Mitsubishi F-1 and T-2 are valid. :unsure:


That's the nearest we've come to actually having a question about this GB so far.................

If you say it's a bit of a Jaguar, even though it's from an F-1 or a T-2, how are we to know? They look pretty much the same to me, but I'll confer with my fellow Mod.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

Quote from: perttime on October 25, 2023, 01:24:26 AM
Quote from: McColm on October 21, 2023, 07:29:02 AMDo the aircraft that we are building have to stick with the fixed wings?
Jaguar turned into an attack helicopter!  :thumbsup:  :wub:

Hey! That's my job!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

McColm

Is there any objections to drone versions of the Harrier, Jaguar and Buccaneer?

PR19_Kit

Definitely NO objections.   :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

NARSES2

Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

McColm

That's a relief,  knowing me I'll probably get paint on the canopy.  :thumbsup:

The Chaos


PR19_Kit

The GB doesn't start for a day or so yet, plenty of time to go.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 25, 2023, 05:10:44 AM
Quote from: ysi_maniac on October 24, 2023, 11:16:55 PMI assume that inspiration in Mitsubishi F-1 and T-2 are valid. :unsure:


That's the nearest we've come to actually having a question about this GB so far.................

If you say it's a bit of a Jaguar, even though it's from an F-1 or a T-2, how are we to know? They look pretty much the same to me, but I'll confer with my fellow Mod.

You _can_ tell the difference, but they're so similar that saying an F-1/T-2 part is a modified Jaguar part would be totally credible.
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zenrat

Quote from: zenrat on October 20, 2023, 04:40:43 AM:thumbsup:

Hopefully I can pre-empt discussions re eligibility by editing a post from the Lightning Hunter Canberra GB:

Some one will ask "What percentage of the donor  Buccaneer, Harrier and/or Jaguar is passable for this GB?

The answer is...

...it depends.

If the aim is to build a BH or J (or BHJ derivative/prototype) then the answer is none.  You can use anything and everything to create it.  No actual Buccaneer, Harrier or Jaguar parts are needed.
For example, it would be acceptable to chop up and combine a Mitsubishi F1 and a Mirage F1 and call the result a SuperJag.


If the aim is to build something that is not a BH or J using BH or J parts then the answer is "a significant amount".  How much a significant amount is is decided by the mods so run your plans past them and they will deem them acceptable or not.
As a rough guide, using a Buccaneer arrestor hook as the hood ornament on a Hot Rod that contains no other BH or J parts would not be acceptable while cutting the wings off s Harrier and turning the fuselage into a motorbike would be OK.
Don't forget that if using B and/or H and/or J parts then the resulting whiff does not have to be a BH or J.  If you want to build a Sopwith Camel out of a Jaguar then you can.


HTH  :mellow:


Assuming that this way of thinking about the rules is acceptable to the mods then you can use whatever you like and take inspiration from anywhere as long as you say the finished thing is some sort of Jaguar (or Buccaneer, or Harrier).

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on October 30, 2023, 04:34:13 AMAssuming that this way of thinking about the rules is acceptable to the mods then you can use whatever you like and take inspiration from anywhere as long as you say the finished thing is some sort of Jaguar (or Buccaneer, or Harrier).


My own view is that your model/drawing should have some link, no matter how tenuous, to the real world Jaguar, Buccaneer or Harrier, either that or your starting point should be a kit or parts from a kit of one or more of the 3. Otherwise what's the point of having an annual Poll to pick 3 subjects if you can just build what you want ?
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

I'd go along with that Chris, there has to be SOME sort of connection with the GB's title.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

I intend to use a Tornado as the base for a super Jag..landing gear from a Mig27 as that looks very similar to the jags .
Modify the tail to look more like the Jag and as for wings ..it won't be a swing wing anymore.
I want to use A4 Skyhawk wings as the base and modify from there.
How's that sound for this GB
I'm choosing this idea as a Jaguar or Buccaneer kit here has an amazingly stupid price.
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PR19_Kit

Sounds perfectly acceptable to me, go for it.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit