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Mach 2 Argosy

Started by chrisonord, October 29, 2023, 08:33:59 AM

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chrisonord

I keep looking at these kits and the horror stories about the quality of them and the fact that they are too big for me to build where I am now let alone display have put me off getting one, but I might have room when I move house, so my question is, does anyone here have one of these kits, and if so what are they like , also has anyone built one.
Cheers  :thumbsup:
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If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

Gondor

#1
Not built the kit yet myself even though I have two in the stash, one to be in the 1960's scheme as provided in the box and the other to be RNZAF.

There is a good build on Britmodeller https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/235013713-mach-2-armstrong-whitworth-argosy-c-mk1/
although they get the interior wrong a bit as can be seen from the pictures I took last time I was visiting Telford when I popped into Cosford as you do.

https://flic.kr/s/aHskr4UpGi

Haveing looked at the kits there really is nothing that a good strong glue and a very firm file can't sort out depending on the level of detail you want to add.

Gondor
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PR19_Kit

I looked at the thread title and immediately thought of swept wings and BIG afterburning turbo-fan engines etc.  :o

Then I read it and came back down to earth................
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

chrisonord

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2023, 09:23:04 AMI looked at the thread title and immediately thought of swept wings and BIG afterburning turbo-fan engines etc.  :o

Then I read it and came back down to earth................
;D  ;D  ;D
Now theres a thought.  :wacko:
Thanks Alastair, I think I will buy myself one when funds allow, and put it away for when I have moved. I am thinking of a wrap around camouflage mid 1970's time frame, off loading a landrover and an armoured car of some sort.
Cheers
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

The Rat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2023, 09:23:04 AMI looked at the thread title and immediately thought of swept wings and BIG afterburning turbo-fan engines etc.  :o

Then I read it and came back down to earth................

 ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Pellson

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2023, 09:23:04 AMI looked at the thread title and immediately thought of swept wings and BIG afterburning turbo-fan engines etc.  :o

Then I read it and came back down to earth................

Me too. Great minds think alike, and all that..  ;D
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Pellson on October 29, 2023, 11:50:22 AMMe too. Great minds think alike, and all that..  ;D


Should we get on and build one?  ;D  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Pellson

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2023, 11:51:39 AM
Quote from: Pellson on October 29, 2023, 11:50:22 AMMe too. Great minds think alike, and all that..  ;D


Should we get on and build one?  ;D  ;D

It is tempting, isn't it?  ;D
Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

kitbasher

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PR19_Kit

A Mach 2 Group Build, or an Argosy Group Build?  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kitbasher

What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
On the go: Beaumaris/Battle/Bronco/Barracuda/F-105(UK)/Flatning/Hellcat IV/Hunter PR11/Hurricane IIb/Ice Cream Tank/JP T4/Jumo MiG-15/M21/P1103 (early)/P1127/P1154-ish/Phantom FG1/I-153/Sea Hawk T7/Spitfire XII/Spitfire Tr18/Twin Otter/FrankenCOIN/Frankenfighter

Accidental Loggie

Quote from: kitbasher on October 29, 2023, 03:11:53 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 29, 2023, 03:01:20 PMA Mach 2 Group Build, or an Argosy Group Build?  ;D

Argosy

Re-winged and re-engined versions only?  :wacko:
Converte et subvertere

Beermonster58

I pay little, if any attention to internet "horror " stories about kits. I prefer to just get on with them. I have built three Mach 2 kits, including the Argosy which, was by no means as bad as some would like to portray. They are, to be sure, challenging builds but, I'd build a Mach 2 kit before (for example) I'd build any bloody vac form kit. 

What I do find amusing though is, despite all the "horror" stories, the company is still with us  and, continuing to produce kits of items that nobody else will bother with (at least in 1/72).  I would never, for example, imagine that an aircraft like the Martin Seamaster would ever tempt a kit manufacturer. I like these "outside the box" (no pun intended) subjects. Thank you MACH 2 for producing one  :thumbsup: .

I have recently purchased the Douglas EC-24. Not too many DC-8s or variants thereof in 1/72 either so, another reason to be grateful .I think it's worth pointing out that Mach 2 is a tiny (one man) operation and, quite frankly, I think he deserves to be commended for continuing to produce such rare subjects that are obviously, despite the adverse comments, selling in sufficient numbers to keep the business going.

I guess it depends on how much you want a particular subject. If you want it badly enough, then an imperfect kit is better than no kit and, you will put the work into it.
Maybe the customers also ignore the horror stories and, just get on with the models?    ;)  ;D .
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chrisonord

Oh dear....what have I started here eh?? :-\  ;D
In other news, I have ordered an RAF version, which after having a good look at the box contents, will be sealed away in a big cardboard box, not quite forever.
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

Beermonster58

Quote from: chrisonord on October 29, 2023, 03:58:45 PMOh dear....what have I started here eh?? :-\  ;D
In other news, I have ordered an RAF version, which after having a good look at the box contents, will be sealed away in a big cardboard box, not quite forever.
;D  ;D You've actually started a good discussion! :thumbsup:
Hates rivet counters! Eats JMNs for breakfast!