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Ukrainian AV-8B Harrier.

Started by Wardukw, October 31, 2023, 09:32:52 AM

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Wardukw

Oh also some plans have changed ...I was going to use the Plus ll Harrier but I've decided to use the Monogram AV-8B instead.
I'm going to turn it into a Plus lll model..in British service it would be possibly be a GR10 model if that don't already exist.
I've been wanting to build that old Monogram kit for years so I am  ;D
Very possible a few A4 Skyhawk bits will make their way into the build 😀
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Nothing wrong with some Skyhawk additions! The old Monogram kit was not bad and if you're going to change it up anyway why use something expensive.
Some Harrier upgrades sounds cool.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Wardukw on November 08, 2023, 11:18:40 AMI'm going to turn it into a Plus lll model..in British service it would be possibly be a GR10 model if that don't already exist.


Better be a GR11, the Mk 10 & 12 Harriers were the 2nd generation  trainers. For some reason they missed '11'.  :-\
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 08, 2023, 11:18:40 AMI'm going to turn it into a Plus lll model..in British service it would be possibly be a GR10 model if that don't already exist.


Better be a GR11, the Mk 10 & 12 Harriers were the 2nd generation  trainers. For some reason they missed '11'.  :-\
How's a GR13 then ..nope it's a unlucky number ..then maybe GR14 ..since im upgrading the hell out of this thing .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

That'd be twice as good as a GR7 then.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 09, 2023, 03:06:59 AMThat'd be twice as good as a GR7 then.  ;D
That's a bloody good point mate 👍
I like it !! 😄

Confirmed..GR-14 Harrier it is  :thumbsup:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Nick

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 08, 2023, 11:18:40 AMI'm going to turn it into a Plus lll model..in British service it would be possibly be a GR10 model if that don't already exist.


Better be a GR11, the Mk 10 & 12 Harriers were the 2nd generation  trainers. For some reason they missed '11'.  :-\

I believe that was to avoid confusion. The modern BAe Harrier was known as the Harrier II, and having a Harrier II T.11 would have muddled up many people / politicians.
It's bad enough reading about World War Eleven without having the worlds best VTOL aircraft in the mix.  :-X  ;D

Wardukw

Well I've actually got this bird nearly built...it's a completely OTB built as this will be more a paint job than a wiffy build .
Armaments will be rocket pods and a couple of Sidewinders..but the missiles are just a thought for the mo..maybe something a bit more nasty is needed.
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

zenrat

Quote from: Nick on December 13, 2023, 11:22:18 PMI believe that was to avoid confusion. The modern BAe Harrier was known as the Harrier II...

Harrier II T.FRu.T

 :mellow:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on December 16, 2023, 03:24:28 AM
Quote from: Nick on December 13, 2023, 11:22:18 PMI believe that was to avoid confusion. The modern BAe Harrier was known as the Harrier II...

Harrier II T.FRu.T

 :mellow:

 :banghead:  :banghead:  You're really lucky I'm in a good mood, apparently it's Christmas  ;)
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Old Wombat

Quote from: zenrat on December 16, 2023, 03:24:28 AM
Quote from: Nick on December 13, 2023, 11:22:18 PMI believe that was to avoid confusion. The modern BAe Harrier was known as the Harrier II...

Harrier II T.FRu.T

 :mellow:

It's 0045hrs, everyone else in the house (the entire family, including my daughter, grandson, & daughter's partner, & their 2 dogs) are asleep & I'm trying to be very quiet ...

Then you, Fred, go & write that & I burst out laughing. :banghead:  :banghead:  ;D  ;D  :thumbsup:
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Wardukw

Well its built ...the weapons load out is also built...we've got a couple of  CBU-87 cluster bombs and 6 x LAU-3 rocket pods .
For self defense a couple of AIM-9X Sidewinder missiles ...a nice clean simple load out .
If I get anytime tomorrow I'm gonna prime the thing and start making up the templates.
What will be annoying will be this Xmas thing ..family dinner and all that .
Still tho ..can't really complain..will be roast turkey 🍗 😋
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kitbasher

Quote from: Nick on December 13, 2023, 11:22:18 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2023, 02:36:42 PM
Quote from: Wardukw on November 08, 2023, 11:18:40 AMI'm going to turn it into a Plus lll model..in British service it would be possibly be a GR10 model if that don't already exist.


Better be a GR11, the Mk 10 & 12 Harriers were the 2nd generation  trainers. For some reason they missed '11'.  :-\

I believe that was to avoid confusion. The modern BAe Harrier was known as the Harrier II, and having a Harrier II T.11 would have muddled up many people / politicians.
It's bad enough reading about World War Eleven without having the worlds best VTOL aircraft in the mix.  :-X  ;D
i

The single-seater marks were all odd-numbered and the two-seaters even-numbered.

So a T.6 and a GR.11 are good whif possibilities.  'My' mark 11 would be a radar equipped GR.9 (equivalent to the AV-8B+), probably redesignated FGR.11, intended as a Sea Harrier replacement.

In the real world I'm pretty certain the GR.11 was seen as a further development of the GR.9 but have no evidence to support that assumption.  The T.6 was planned to be a T.4 with GR.5 avionics, but common sense held sway and the T.10 was purchased.
What If? & Secret Project SIG member.
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Wardukw

Well its black ..black primer ..will be the base for the camo ...I'll be modifying the colours a little bit cause those will be the colours I have  ;D
Don't know if I mentioned em but the colours will be black..lightish gray and a darkish gray ..well a medium gray is what it will be if I can get the shade right .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Wardukw

Landing gear painted ....soon ...the masks  :unsure:  :o
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .