Me-328 and Hu-136 Q: How and where would you expect to mount a bomb?

[Stan in YUL]

I was going through my stash and found the PM 1/72 Me-328 and with an old issue of SAMi in hand I was trying to think of how a bomb would be carried with a fuselage that also featured a centreline landing skid?  Not much help in that particular article.

I remembered that the Hutter Hu-136 (Stabo1) config was supposedly to do the same but surfing has come up with only vague hints.  I wouldn't rate your chances of not blowing yourself up on a rough take off run particularly high but maybe I am not thinking far enough out of the box.

Has anyone some thoughts on the subject?

Thanks in advance

[Dizzyfugu]

I's suppose that a starting cart, maybe with RATO support, was used, with the bomb still under the fuselage and the retracted skid.

Another odd configuration that was considered (and maybe even tested, rumors have it that Me 262 V10 was used for trials) was a drawbar arrangement, called "Deichselschlepp", with the load (a bomb with wings, or an auxiliary fuel tank) tugged closely behind the aircraft, attached with a stiff bar like a truck trailer. Something like this:

[Pellson]

That's about as draggy as it gets without resorting to a proper brake chute.. 

[jcf]

As the 328 could never get off of the ground on its
own, the "landing" skid being in the way is moot.
The bomb wasn't going to be there when the skid
was needed. A take-off dolly of some sort would be required, and it would have to be rocket boosted. The more likely scenario is that the 328 would be carried up by another aircraft. 

[PR19_Kit]

The more likely scenario is that the 328 would be carried up by another aircraft.

Didn't they carry it on top of a Do-17, or -217 maybe?

[zenrat]

The more likely scenario is that the 328 would be carried up by another aircraft.

Didn't they carry it on top of a Do-17, or -217 maybe?

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The 328 in this kit is a glider.  No undercarriage of any sort (not even a skid) IIRC.  I have pondered how to whiff it.  Currently thinking about bicycle undercarriage and wing root mounted jets.

[perttime]

Secretprojects has a couple of pages on Me 328. Different versions, with old and speculative pictures. Many posts mention suicide maritime attack.
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/messerschmitt-me-328-variants-and-projects.3563/

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[PR19_Kit]

Like this?

JUST like that! 

I didn't even know there was a kit of that Mistel setup, let alone an Airfix one!

[Stan in YUL]

Thank you gents.
I should have specified that I was thinking about one of the pulse jet powered concepts.
I agree that a take off trolley is essential- maybe for a centerline mounted bomb, it would require either a jettisonable bomb cradle.

I was imagining a desperate design team trying to poach some ideas from the armoured Stubo (ie Hutter) concept just to keep the research money flowing.

Thanks again!

[NARSES2]

Like this?

JUST like that! 

I didn't even know there was a kit of that Mistel setup, let alone an Airfix one!

I think they used the PM kit

[The Wooksta!]

The 328 was conceived as a fighter.  The idea to rework it as a bomber came from Hitler and his obsession with attack.

The Huma kit, if you can find it, is the only accurate one. Don't know about the old Airmodel vacform, but as it was from the Frank-Modellbau era I suspect it was produced by MPM.

[Stan in YUL]

The 328 was conceived as a fighter.  The idea to rework it as a bomber came from Hitler and his obsession with attack.

The Huma kit, if you can find it, is the only accurate one. Don't know about the old Airmodel vacform, but as it was from the Frank-Modellbau era I suspect it was produced by MPM.

That Wooster, I check the Huma kit instructions on stalemates and see the kind of arrangement.

[frank2056]

The Huma kit was one of their later ones, at the pinnacle of their work.  It came with two Me328s; one with two pulse jets (yeah right - that would have turned the Me328 into a pile of wood chips) and one that would carry a bomb under the skid. Here's a build:

https://www.modellversium.de/galerie/9-flugzeuge-ww2/17772-messerschmitt-me-328-huma.html

[zenrat]

Like this?

JUST like that! 

I didn't even know there was a kit of that Mistel setup, let alone an Airfix one!

I think they used the PM kit

AIUI its the Airfix Do.217 (crude and dated - 1960 mould) with PM Me 328 (not much to it).  I won my example at a show.  Around the same time I also won the Airfix Ta.154/FW190 Mistel which contains a horrible PM Ta.154 and an acceptable Airfix FW.190A8.

[NARSES2]

Ta for confirmation