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Project 75

Started by Gondor, February 11, 2024, 11:43:36 AM

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Devilfish

Quote from: The Wooksta! on February 19, 2024, 02:31:13 AMI've sat inside both cockpits of XR220 and they're darker than LAG.

I was talking about undercarriage legs and bays.  Cockpits were Dark Admiralty Grey

Gondor

Well, it's my model and I will paint it how I like!

The cockpit will be Colourcoats M16 and the undercarriage and bomb bays will be Colourcoats M23.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

I made a slight change to the colours I am going to use. The bomb bay is going to stay white. This is mostly because the painting I have done to it looks reasonable at the moment so it would be a shame to change it.

The undercarriage legs and bays have been painted in Colourcoats M23, the cockpit will get redone in Colourcoats M16 tomorrow.



The photo is a little out of focus because the phone decided that the cat scratching mat that I bought today is far better to focus on. You get to see the colour, if not the detail in the picture. The parts will need a second coat later though so maybe just as well you can't see any detail.

I am thinking of adding brake lines to the undercarriage legs. This is not something that I have done before so advice would be appreciated before I get too far with them.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

Second coat of Colourcoats M23 this evening, tomorrow I will re-paint the cockpit and a few others that I need to do while I have the tin open.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

kerick

If you are using armature wire for the brake lines, color them with a black permanent marker before installing them. It doesn't add thickness and lumpiness to the wire that way.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Gondor

Quote from: kerick on February 20, 2024, 06:21:41 PMIf you are using armature wire for the brake lines, color them with a black permanent marker before installing them. It doesn't add thickness and lumpiness to the wire that way.

I don't have any armature wire as I don't know what gauge it is or the material it is made from, although I am guessing that it would be copper.

Anyway, I have repainted the cockpit! I am much happier with the colour now which is good.

Here is what it looked like yesterday



Ignore the number on the back, that was the first colour I was going to paint it.

Halfway house



New paint on the left which is still wet at this stage

And now



Not doing any more tonight. I will be starting to do detailed painting of the cockpit tomorrow.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

kerick

Looks much better! I'll be waiting to see more.  :thumbsup:
Armature wire is the fine copper wire used in motors and transformers. It has that super thin varnish like insulation that comes in different colors.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Gondor

Quote from: kerick on February 21, 2024, 07:15:37 PMLooks much better! I'll be waiting to see more.  :thumbsup:
Armature wire is the fine copper wire used in motors and transformers. It has that super thin varnish like insulation that comes in different colors.

Ah, that reddish varnish. Nope, I don't have any but I do have thin wire. I also have no idea how it should be routed other than it has to run over the scissor links.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

zenrat

AKA wrapping wire.  I use 0.5mm wrapping wire as spark plug wires for 1/25 model cars.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Rick Lowe

Quote from: Gondor on February 17, 2024, 03:30:03 AMThought I had better take a couple of pictures to back up my thoughts about fitting the Bluewater.

On reflection, they might fit. It would be a tight fit though. The picture with the missile shows the underside of the wing and the slot for the engine pylon. The larger of the missiles fins are also in the picture to show how much bigger it could be although the fins would be at 45o from the vertical and so not their full width.

The other picture shows the depth of the pylons, grey for the engine pylon and cream for the missile pylon, so this shows the amount of vertical room for the missile.

So yes, it could fit, but it would be tight.

Gondor

I agree - too much chance of the ordnance snagging the engine pod on the way out... not helpful. Or the engine ingesting the missile's exhaust... also not helpful.
Something semi-recessed into the bomb bay is a better idea.  :thumbsup:

Gondor

Quote from: Rick Lowe on February 23, 2024, 05:24:39 AM
Quote from: Gondor on February 17, 2024, 03:30:03 AMThought I had better take a couple of pictures to back up my thoughts about fitting the Bluewater.

On reflection, they might fit. It would be a tight fit though. The picture with the missile shows the underside of the wing and the slot for the engine pylon. The larger of the missiles fins are also in the picture to show how much bigger it could be although the fins would be at 45o from the vertical and so not their full width.

The other picture shows the depth of the pylons, grey for the engine pylon and cream for the missile pylon, so this shows the amount of vertical room for the missile.

So yes, it could fit, but it would be tight.

Gondor

I agree - too much chance of the ordnance snagging the engine pod on the way out... not helpful. Or the engine ingesting the missile's exhaust... also not helpful.
Something semi-recessed into the bomb bay is a better idea.  :thumbsup:

I don't think that will work either.

It's all to do with the fact that the aircraft uses a bicycle-type undercarriage where one set of wheels are in front of the other.



As you can see above, the cut-outs near the left and right sides of the picture are the undercarriage bays, the big gap in the middle is the bomb bay and below that in cream is a Blue Water missile.

So it looks like it won't fit that way either. All this is down to the design. Looks pretty but it's not a particularly practical design for doing anything other than lugging a couple of buckets of instant sunshine around and not much else that won't fit inside the bomb bay.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Steel Penguin

centre line on the spine ?   :wacko:
the things you learn, give your mind the wings to fly, and the chains to hold yourself steady
take off and nuke the site form orbit, nope, time for the real thing, CAM and gridfire, call special circumstances. 
wow, its like freefalling into the Geofront
Not a member of the Hufflepuff conspiracy!

Gondor

Had a good look at the canopy fit and found out that the problem is with the cockpit, it has a middle-aged spread. I currently have the sides clamped into the correct width and will treat with a hair dryer tomorrow.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....