RW 1964 Daytona Cobra

[Wardukw]

This got me thinking Kit and as we all know thinking me thinking often leads to strange things or trouble ..or strange trouble 
So the thinking thing happened and then the internet thing happened and i found this lot ..i hope at least one or two will help ya out some .
images by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
images-2 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
images-3 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
Then i found this amazing work of art ,,,this is think might really help ya as this dude is building a replica of the Daytona in brass ,,and its of the original car to .
Theres a pic of the rear end in this pile of pics ,,not what ya needed but its just so damn good 
18 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
27 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
32 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
35 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
images-4 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
images-7 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
This is the back end pic.
images-5 by Phill Harrison, on Flickr
Hope something here will help .

[Gondor]

You have just got to let us know where those pictures are from! The build looks epic!! 

Gondor

[Wardukw]

You have just got to let us know where those pictures are from! The build looks epic!! 

Gondor

Alistair mate I'll go hunting again and see if I can find him..shouldn't be that hard 

Found it 😄..this thing is mind blowing 🤯
https://www.michel-stassart-creation.be/index.php/shelby-cobra-daytona-coupe

[PR19_Kit]

That lot's MEGA helpful, thanks VERY much! 

The link to his site also comes up with a head-on pic of the firewall too, JUST what I need!

[Later] Hmmmmm, there's NO way I could get my 1/24 Daytona looking as good as that 1/8 scale one, it's EXQUISITE! And it's also very different to the Gunze Sangyo kit too, more's the pity.

There are some major differences which I won't be able to correct now that I've built a chunk of it, but I can make some changes to improve it.

[Wardukw]

Glad this lot helped you out mate 👍
Even more chuffed that site helped ya out even more 
I wouldn't expect you to be going to this extreme  bud as even me being the nutta I am wouldn't..well if I could get a kit of that car I might but not in brass .
This car is on an entirely different level .

[PR19_Kit]

Here's some progress pics.

Carving out the firewall blank using the bonnet moulding as an outline was a doddle, a lot easier than I thought. I carved it from some 20 thou styrene so it's pretty strong and won't end up too floppy when I'm adding bits to it later.



This pic of the 1/8 scale firewall was worth its weight in gold as I scaled the pic to the same size as the 1/24 moulding, and I've marked out the depth and width of the tunnel on my firewall and chopped it out. I'll build up the footwell recesses from some `10-15 thou stuff later on and add them either side.



Now the chassis, or the rear end of it anyway. It's easier to see what's what once it's been primed



Most of it will be black, with some small detail painting of course, as that's what it was on the real car, but black is such a pain to take pics of.   

One major problem is the dampers and mounts are far too tall. The little spigot sticking out of the top of the transverse leaf spring is meant to locate in a hole in the boot floor, or spare wheel floor anyway. But that floor is the full width of the body and the tops of the dampers are 3 mm too high!



I'm not sure how anyone ever built one of these before, the chassis would have been sticking out from under the body by that 3 mm! I don't really want to chop the dampers down as there'll be no stroke left in the dampers themselves, so I'll probably cut slots in the spare wheel floor to let them poke through and maybe cover them with a styrene shroud, or just maybe leave them visible?

[PR19_Kit]

Big progress on the Daytona today. 

With the aid of the pics and links that Wardukw posted      I've got the front end of the chassis sorted, and it's as near to the real thing that it can be now.



Note the prop shaft has vanished since the last pic, I had to break it off to get the engine position sorted, see pic later on.

Then I cut the slots (shown by the red arrows) for the rear damper supports in the spare tyre floor, and that worked a treat. The whole floor assembly now sits down in exactly the correct position. Which begs the questions a) Didn't they ever do any test build of it? and b) Didn't any of the customers ever complain?

I must admit I've never seen one of these kits assembled before yet, so maybe I'm doing the first one. 



And lastly I sawed and filed the engine mounts of my hybrid metal/plastic engine so that they'd fit between the chassis rails, and glued the prop shaft onto the gearbox to position the engine fore and aft. And here it is neatly in place,



Got a whole lot of detail stuff to add to the engine yet, but it's early days.

[Wardukw]

Man I'm lovin this 😍
Your rear end issues are a pain Kit and yep I think your probably the first to accurately and actually build one   
I'd go one of ways with those shocks..cut the top mounts off like you've shown ..for ease of  building or like ya thoughts..cutting holes in the floors to let em poke through..this though will look unoriginal so some custom clean up would be needed to hide em .
Myself I'd cut the holes and then use the tops of the mounts are mounts for more roll cage ..it explains the holes and would look cool ..but that's me and ya know I never keep anything stock 

[zenrat]

I'd trim the inboard lower ends of the rods holding the shockmounts until the tops were lowered enough to clear the floor.

[PR19_Kit]

I'd trim the inboard lower ends of the rods holding the shockmounts until the tops were lowered enough to clear the floor.

I looked at doing that, but the lower end of the shocks themselves are rings that slide onto pegs on the lower wishbones. And if I trimmed the inboard rods the whole assembly would have to lean inwards considerably to allow the tops to clear the boot floor, and then they'd foul the propshaft tunnel.

As it is I can cover the clearance holes with a couple of blanking plates, and use those to mount both the roll bar and the seat belt mounts as well.

Hopefully..................

[zenrat]

The brass model has a different locating method.  The top shock mounts attach to a horizontal rod which is itself located onto the front diff carrier.

I think all three of us are in danger of getting obsessed...

[PR19_Kit]

Yeah, the brass one has a very different structure to the Gunze Sangyo kit.

I've searched high and low to see where he got his data from, but with no success. Of course with race cars the structure is always changing from race to race so the car, CSX 2299, may well be different now to what it was when originally built.

[PR19_Kit]

Some work on the body of the Daytona today. I trimmed and glued the new firewall in place, and it fits very nicely.



And at the other end I drilled out and filed the rear vents. The Gurney/Bondurant car had open vents like that during the '64 Le Mans race, but they were plated over on most of the six Daytonas the following year. As I'm building it as the GT Class winning, and 4th place overall, #5 car during the '64 race, the plates had to go.



Then I went and did some work on the interior. and what a pain THAT was! I built up the cover plate over the two damper mounts, and glued the roll bar on top of it, together with the roll bar's bracing struts. But by then I'd run out of 1.5 mm dia aluminium rod from the kit, so the seat belt anchorage bar was made from a sawn down cocktail stick. 

Quite a bit of the cockpit detail is done by some PE etches, but they're not brass, and seem impervious to most glues!    I tried two different superglues with zero effect, and eventually reverted  to a 1970s standby, Evo Stick, and that worked OK. The centre console and the panel (arrowed) are both held down with it and should stay put now. Plus I added the minute gear lever and the long stalk of a handbrake lever. I'm not sure I believe the latter as it's not visible in any pics of the RW car.

[Captain Canada]

Both builds look good ! Such a sexy little car.

[Rick Lowe]

Coming along nicely, Kit. 
Yeah, when it's a passion project, you take your time and do it right.

All the other kits out in the Wild are probably either stockpiled as Investments, or 'one day...' builds.