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Quote from: Wardukw on July 04, 2024, 06:22:05 PMI was thinking  the same Kit..the wing roots would be the easiest place to lengthen the wings.....................


And that's not too easy with this kit. The engineering is SO good that it's a real job to get the wings into the fuselage slots, and you don't really need glue at all for it. I'd never be able to reproduce that fit to extend the wings at the actual root. It may be possible to start just outboard of the root as the first 5-6 feet of the trailing edge f the DC8 is straight, and I'll probably use that as a starter to build the centre wing section.


Quote from: kerick on July 04, 2024, 06:52:24 PMThree in the middle, two on the right and three more on the left. Mix the types freely.


At one time I was thinking of one REALLY big one mounted on top of the wing centre section.  ;D

But that would have gone against Tophe's basic asymmetric ideas.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Extending a tapered wing in the middle is simply a case of adding a dog tooth(s) and wing fence(s).
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on July 05, 2024, 03:51:50 AMExtending a tapered wing in the middle is simply a case of adding a dog tooth(s) and wing fence(s).


Yes, true, but I'm not sure that's very 'airliner-like', but then the whole model isn't either.  ;D

I may give that a go Fred, thanks for the idea.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 05, 2024, 12:35:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on July 04, 2024, 06:22:05 PMI was thinking  the same Kit..the wing roots would be the easiest place to lengthen the wings.....................


And that's not too easy with this kit. The engineering is SO good that it's a real job to get the wings into the fuselage slots, and you don't really need glue at all for it. I'd never be able to reproduce that fit to extend the wings at the actual root. It may be possible to start just outboard of the root as the first 5-6 feet of the trailing edge f the DC8 is straight, and I'll probably use that as a starter to build the centre wing section.


Quote from: kerick on July 04, 2024, 06:52:24 PMThree in the middle, two on the right and three more on the left. Mix the types freely.


At one time I was thinking of one REALLY big one mounted on top of the wing centre section.  ;D

But that would have gone against Tophe's basic asymmetric ideas.  ;D

Just put it off center a little.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Gondor

Quote from: kerick on July 05, 2024, 07:41:03 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 05, 2024, 12:35:07 AM
Quote from: Wardukw on July 04, 2024, 06:22:05 PMI was thinking  the same Kit..the wing roots would be the easiest place to lengthen the wings.....................


And that's not too easy with this kit. The engineering is SO good that it's a real job to get the wings into the fuselage slots, and you don't really need glue at all for it. I'd never be able to reproduce that fit to extend the wings at the actual root. It may be possible to start just outboard of the root as the first 5-6 feet of the trailing edge f the DC8 is straight, and I'll probably use that as a starter to build the centre wing section.


Quote from: kerick on July 04, 2024, 06:52:24 PMThree in the middle, two on the right and three more on the left. Mix the types freely.


At one time I was thinking of one REALLY big one mounted on top of the wing centre section.  ;D

But that would have gone against Tophe's basic asymmetric ideas.  ;D

Just put it off center a little.

One half longer than the other with the longer one on the shorter fuselage side. Alternatively is you get the sizes right and put the longer centre wing half on the longer fuselage side it might look to be an even left and right half just an optical illusion due to fuselage size.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

The Rat

Tophe would love this!  :wub:
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: The Rat on July 05, 2024, 09:34:43 AMTophe would love this!  :wub:


That's the idea, and hopefully Robert would too 'cos it's an airliner with larger engine(s) and it'll be Canadian too.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

buzzbomb

So when I want to get to First/Business Class, do I turn left at the first cabin, or carry on through the walkway to the secondary cabin, which would be more appropriate so those cattle class people do not use our bathrooms  ;D
We of the F/J class could always have our own boarding bridge to the other compartment, to completely eliminate having to even pass through where the great masses are squeezed in. ;D

Great concept for this Group Build  :thumbsup:

PR19_Kit

I've done the major amount of rough sanding and the initial PSR on the two fuselages and wing tips now, and as I liked Fred Zenrat's idea about extending one of the wings and adding a wing fence, I did exactly that to the port outer wing. It's a bit OTT but this IS a Tophe/Kitnut Memorial model after all! I may do it on the starboard wing too, but on a smaller scale.

The starboard fuselage has had it's extensive canopy moulding and the nose tip added as I won't need access to that fuselage for nose` weight, it'll all go in the port fuselage prior to adding its canopy and nose.

I've also sawn down the remaining wing bits at the trailing edge break to use the root areas for the centre section wing, but I'll need to find a parallel, non tapered bit of wing to fill in the gap, so I foresee a trip to The Loft before much longer.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

That is a sawtooth from Hell!  ;D  :wacko:
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

Wardukw

If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

PR19_Kit

You should see it with the wing fence on it!  :o

I may trim it down a bit, it looks a bit too 'Soviet' as it is.

Both fuselages are sanded and 1st stage primed now, so a little more PSR to go I expect.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2024, 03:15:26 PM...it looks a bit too 'Soviet' as it is...

You say that like its a bad thing.

 :-\
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

PR19_Kit

Quote from: zenrat on July 08, 2024, 04:43:58 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 07, 2024, 03:15:26 PM...it looks a bit too 'Soviet' as it is...

You say that like its a bad thing.

 :-\


But it's meant to be Canadian, or flying with a Canadian airline anyway.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Now it's got paint on it, well, primer anyway. That's after the 3rd PSR session and it's looking OK apart from the cockpit area. Minicraft always seem to make a bit of hash with their cockpit mouldings, they mould the windscreen and the fuselage surrounding it all in one quite large  piece, and the joint line hardly ever fits properly.

The ladder affair between the inner stub wings is the spar structure I've glued up as a basis for the wing centre section. I'll add a leading edge and some trailing edge strip and then skin it it, rather a like a flying model only in styrene. That's the plan anyway.

I've also started on designing the decals for it, but that's got a long way to go yet.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit