Mirage 2000

[nev]

OK, what would a Mirage 2000/4000 have been called in RAF service?

Cos a Mirage 2000 F.1 sounds dumb.

As does Mirage 4000 FS.2


It just doesn't roll off the tongue does it?

Would we lose the 2000 and call it a Mirage T.2?  Or a Mirage T.2000? (can't see the Top Brass going for that one!)

Or re-name it after a classic WW2 plane?  Mosquito?  Hurricane?  Tempest?

[Geoff_B]

Hi Nev

Well the Indians call theirs Vajra (Divine Thunder). So how about Thunder F1 and Thunder T2, the C & D would then become Thunder FGR-3 and Thunder T-4 or FGR-4 depending on Trainers or Strike role. Armed with Alarm then they could be Wild Thunder EFG-3.

Cheers

Geoff B)  

[P1127]

Depends on the name they gave the Mirage III  ^_^ !!

Assuming it would have been Mirage F1 (How confusing would that be?) and Mirage T2, upgraded to F3 and T4, then the M2K would have been maybe the F5, or FG5, or even FB5 (RAF don't do S for Strike - that's a Navy designation foisted upon them) trainer T6

etc

[Mike Wren]

Mirage FGR.1 for the 2000, Mirage F.2 for the 4000. easy    

[upnorth]

Considering the actual historical relations between England and France, you can bet a fully French aircraft in British service would get nothing flattering for a name.

Probably "That French Thing Over There" would be the best it would get.

[nev]

Agincourt F.1?

Crecy FS.2?

 

[Aircav]

Longbow FGR.V      

[Davey B]

Wellington FG.1?    Dunkirk FG.1?  

If I ever get a pair of M4K's, they'll be Mirage FR.1 for the RAF, and Mirage FR.2 for the Navy, with T.3 for a joint-service trainer.

[Alvis 3.1]

Waterloo F.1?
of course, the erks would likely just call it "frog"....


Alvis 3.1

[Gary]

You need to think of storms for the names of Brit planes.


Hmmmm, Mirage 2000....


Got it!  

Light Drizzel Mk1

Heavy Fog GR1

Sleet

Blizzard...  too aggressive

Raining cats and dogs

Breeze

Sunny Day but a chance of clouding over later in the day

[dragon]

Illusion F1? (although it sounds vaguely Russian).

[upnorth]

Pea Souper MK.1

There's a threatening sounding weather pattern  

[Gary]

Sundown


as in Sundown on the British aircraft industry!

[nev]

No, no, no, we've joined the program in the early 80 after cancelling the Tornado ADV as unsuitable for the interceptor role.  A hi-lo mix of 4000s and 2000s.  Mirage 2000s to replace the Lightnings (priority), then 4000s to replace UK based Phantoms, then some more 2000s to replace the Phantoms in Germany.

A collaboration along the lines of the Jaguar and Concorde.  Of course France being France, they would demand to be the project leader and get all the prestige etc, but they have British engines, avionics and weapons, and they're British built  

Saudia Arabia and Canada also order the Mirage 4000 instead of the F-15 and F-18  B)

As for the name, I'm trying to think of a famous Anglo-French victory in battle, but I can't think of one!  We haven't been allies very often!    Chris?

[NARSES2]

A collaboration along the lines of the Jaguar and Concorde.  


As for the name, I'm trying to think of a famous Anglo-French victory in battle, but I can't think of one!  We haven't been allies very often!    Chris?

Which is what the  French were expecting to happen when Amery signed the Concorde Treaty, and IMHO should of happened.

As for a Joint victory ?

Jeruselem, Jaffa, Acre - from Crusades I/III - Crusader of course 'cept the Yanks pinched it.

Neuiport/Dunkirk - From Cromwell's time when we fought with the French against the Spanish. (Imperialists)

Alma, Sebastapol, Inkerman, Balaclava - from the Crimea

Boxer - from the Boxer uprising.

Marne I/II, Aisne,Ypres I/II,Somme - only major WWI joint battles - argue about victories, depends on your definition.

WWII - I can only think of the "box" the Foreign Legion defended at the southern most point of the Gazala Line (Bir Hakim ?)

Apart from Crusader or Boxer none of the above sound suitable though.

Or Dassault Coer de Lion/ Fairey Lionheart after Richard I who was French after all ?

Chris