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Captured He-119 V10 - DEAD!

Started by PR19_Kit, September 07, 2024, 06:57:29 AM

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Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2024, 01:31:14 AMI tried both sorts of blades on the KitMaskx vinyl and they both did the same, dragged the mask along rather than cut it. I'll stick (did you see what I did then?  ;D ) to Tamiya tape masks in future for preference.
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It's the classic "stick with what ya know" ..I can respect that matey 👍
I on the other hand suck to no end when I try to use Tamiya tape for masking ..no idea why..just never seems to work properly.
One thing I did find which works beautifully for masking ..bare metal foil..it's brilliant 👏...the down side ..this stuff ain't cheap 😒
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Quote from: Wardukw on September 21, 2024, 02:02:10 AMOne thing I did find which works beautifully for masking ..bare metal foil..it's brilliant 👏...the down side ..this stuff ain't cheap 😒

Going old school with that one mate  ;D  When I first read about using it as a nipper I tried substituting Bacofoil (cooking foil) instead. Guess what ? It didn't work   ;D

Odly enough in a recent SAM review/build the builder used Bare Metal Foil for the canopy.
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Very nice! Ad thanks for the insight into the masks. Never used them before myself.
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I wrote to the mask company and said how impressed I was with a) the fact that they actually thought about doing such an off-the-wall set of masks and b) the quality of them as well, and had a very nice reply too.

Communications like that are worth their weight in gold, a manufacturer who actually listens!  :thumbsup:
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Rheged

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 22, 2024, 09:16:26 AMI wrote to the mask company and said how impressed I was with a) the fact that they actually thought about doing such an off-the-wall set of masks and b) the quality of them as well, and had a very nice reply too.

Communications like that are worth their weight in gold, a manufacturer who actually listens!  :thumbsup:

we grumble when things are wrong, so it's only proper that we pay compliments when things are right.  Old-fashioned courtesy like this can do no harm, and can often do a great deal of good!
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Quote from: Rheged on September 22, 2024, 10:07:32 AMwe grumble when things are wrong, so it's only proper that we pay compliments when things are right.  Old-fashioned courtesy like this can do no harm, and can often do a great deal of good!

Agree! It's often the difference between someone continuing doing the esoteric and giving up for lack of positive (or any) feedback.

PR19_Kit

#52
With the lovely yellow undersides nicely dried out, and the canopy fully masked off, it was time to paint the upper colours.

Historically the He-119 V3 never was part of the Luftwaffe, and was pained in a silver/grey civvie scheme complete with a D- reggie, and it was deemed surplus to requirements in 1942 and scrapped at Heinkel's Marienehe plant. But my backstory says that it was impressed into the Luftwaffe in its early days and painted in their standard scheme of the time.

Later on the RLM became very interested in ultra-high altitude PR tasking, and thought the DB 606 'double engine' idea would be ideal for such a job, and had the V3 resurrected, fitted with much longer wings (of course.......... ;D ) and a full camera fit, it then being deemed as the V10 and used for trials for the PR tasking.

So I got my nice Hataka paints out, found a Luftwaffe 'Dark Green' and slapped on a first coat.

WRONG!  :banghead:

It looked TERRIBLE, being very dark, almost as dark as Scharwz Grun, and very streaky, and was going to need 3-4 coats to cover properly at least. Then I checked a few RLM lists and found there were TWO Dark Greens, RLM 71 and RLM 83. Naturally I'd got the wrong one, RLM 83, and I have no idea why anyone would ever want to use such a strange colour.

Luckily the Hataka RLM 71 green was much better, and almost covered the horrid 83 in one coat, but I gave it two anyway, and it's almost ready for the splinter camo add-ons now.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Rick Lowe

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 21, 2024, 01:31:14 AMI tried both sorts of blades on the KitMaskx vinyl and they both did the same, dragged the mask along rather than cut it. I'll stick (did you see what I did then?  ;D ) to Tamiya tape masks in future for preference.

My experience with Tamiya tape, for what it's worth, is that I use a (new) #10 curved blade and roll it along the frame line, at least initially, rather than dragging a pointed one along.
It works for me, but YMMV as they say.
Another thought would be, if using a pointed blade, to finish at the apex of any acute angles, rather than starting there. That way you're not asking the tape to hold in a narrow pointed area.

Not sure whether this will work for you, but 'Knowledge not shared is knowledge wasted', as they say. :thumbsup:

NARSES2

RLM 81/82/83 are the late War colours Kit. Although by that stage of the War I've no idea if they remained consistent in what they looked like.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rick Lowe on September 24, 2024, 10:17:28 PMMy experience with Tamiya tape, for what it's worth, is that I use a (new) #10 curved blade and roll it along the frame line, at least initially, rather than dragging a pointed one along.


Ah, sounds worth a try Rick, thanks. I've not used curved blades for DECADES.


Quote from: NARSES2 on September 25, 2024, 05:58:29 AMRLM 81/82/83 are the late War colours Kit. Although by that stage of the War I've no idea if they remained consistent in what they looked like.


My time frame for the V10 is essentially 'flexible' thank goodness.  ;D

But that 83 is one WIERD colour, almost Schwarz Grun, but not quite, and so thin it's not true. It's almost a 'wash'.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

The Wooksta!

The Xtracrylix 83 is a nice dark green, one I really like.  It's very close to one of the two maritime greens, 72/73, but I can't remember which is which.

The He 119 would have been in overall RLM02, which was the standard colour for most prototypes.
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Quote from: The Wooksta! on September 25, 2024, 08:03:42 AMThe Xtracrylix 83 is a nice dark green, one I really like.  It's very close to one of the two maritime greens, 72/73, but I can't remember which is which.

The He 119 would have been in overall RLM02, which was the standard colour for most prototypes.


Hataka made a screw up of their 83 then. It's darker than 71, but not as dark as Schwarz Grun.

The He 119 V3 was in RLM02 for a bit, but other seaplanes and flying boats at Travemunde were done in the splinter scheme. My backstory says it was overpainted.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Both splinter pattern greens are on now, and I'm just waiting for the Schwarz Grun to dry off before un-masking it all.

The floats are mostly painted, silver undersides and the standard Dark Green on top, and I'm wondering if I should add some 'splintering' to them too.

I think I will.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

And here it is with all the masks stripped off, plus the mini-mountain of tape that resulted!



There's a few bits that need touching up, and all the borders of the Dark Green have suffered from marking by the tape, but I hope the required decent coat of Klear prior to decaling will sort that out.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit