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1/72 Airfix TSR.2 in BAC Eagle GR.1 Guise

Started by scautomoton, December 23, 2024, 12:13:38 PM

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Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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PR19_Kit

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MAGNIFICENT!

I hope the main wheels stay attached longer than most of them do. The cockpit pics make you realise quite how amazingly thick the clear parts are on this kit.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

scautomoton

Thanks all for the comments. I'm not done for the year yet, I'm trying to get an in-flight diorama of a Lightning F.2A in 92 Sqn colours finished before New Year! I'm cheating with the diorama bits, having ordered them from Coastal Kits. I've just made the base and back-board from a bit of ply. So with luck it'll be done soon!

Quote from: Beermonster58 on December 24, 2024, 02:11:41 AMNow, I know it won't ever happen but, if Airfix produced a brand new kit tk their current standards with the options shown included, I might buy THAT 😊
Agreed, I have a second one to build (probably XR227 doing Blue Water and ECM pod trials), but after this I'll wait a bit. If Airfix were to revisit this kit (which they aren't lets face it) I'd definitely buy a couple more.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2024, 03:13:47 AMI hope the main wheels stay attached longer than most of them do. The cockpit pics make you realise quite how amazingly thick the clear parts are on this kit.
Ha, I find lashings of Loctite Power gel, and then NEVER touch it again for the rest of time! I was originally going to use the CMK canopy vacuforms, but a) they weren't actually brilliant (the masks weren't the same size or shape as the windows) and, b) when I did some research it appears the kit canopies are closer to the actual thickness of the frames on the real thing! They just have a white seal(?) that seems to break up the chunkiness in real life, but I could not be bothered to try to paint that by hand!

Thorvic

Quote from: Beermonster58 on December 24, 2024, 02:11:41 AMThe 1/72.Airfix TSR. 2 is a truly horrible kit and, my utmost respects go to anyone who can produce such a masterpiece from it.

I actually bought  6 and, started two but, they gave so much grief that only 1 got completed.. The other remained unwanted, unfinished and unloved for 2 years before I broke it up for parts to use on other projects.

I sold the other 4 unbuilt kits and swore I'd never touch another of the 1/72 kits again!

 Now, I know it won't ever happen but, if Airfix produced a brand new kit tk their current standards with the options shown included, I might buy THAT 😊

Ah but you need to know the history of the kit, which a number of this forum were involved with (yeh gods thats 20 years ago now !!! :blink:  :blink: !!!!)

I think once you understand the history of you might be a bit more forgiving and appreciative that we got one at all, but thats for another post, this is to do with Stuarts excellent build.
Project Cancelled SIG Secretary, specialising in post war British RN warships, RN and RAF aircraft projects. Also USN and Russian warships

PR19_Kit

Quote from: scautomoton on December 24, 2024, 03:34:03 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2024, 03:13:47 AMI hope the main wheels stay attached longer than most of them do. The cockpit pics make you realise quite how amazingly thick the clear parts are on this kit.


Ha, I find lashings of Loctite Power gel, and then NEVER touch it again for the rest of time!


Both of the TSR2s I've done had the same problem with the wheels. The stub axles are too long so they're in bending the whole time the model's sitting on them and they slowly bend more and more till they snap.

My solution was to cut the axles down until the inner side of the wheels was in actual contact with the bogie part and with them superglued together. That meant the axles weren't the main stress bearing member any more, and were in shear anyway. Much stronger.

So many manufacturers make the same mistake, making their landing gear too 'scale' and therefore weaker, the Revell A-400M, in both scales, being a case in point.  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Nick

That looks absolutely stunning! Superb work there and all that scratch buidling  :thumbsup:  :wub:

Quote from: scautomoton on December 23, 2024, 12:16:02 PMNow before the righteous among us comment that the various doors are only open in the museums for display purposes, hear me out. I'm in the early stages of designing the Short PD-17 at the moment, and when its finished the TSR-2 will perch atop it in a diorama setting with an army of Techs swarming all over it.

That will be a great work in itself. You could easily sell copies of it to us here.

Beermonster58

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2024, 04:21:44 AM
Quote from: scautomoton on December 24, 2024, 03:34:03 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2024, 03:13:47 AMI hope the main wheels stay attached longer than most of them do. The cockpit pics make you realise quite how amazingly thick the clear parts are on this kit.


Ha, I find lashings of Loctite Power gel, and then NEVER touch it again for the rest of time!


Both of the TSR2s I've done had the same problem with the wheels. The stub axles are too long so they're in bending the whole time the model's sitting on them and they slowly bend more and more till they snap.

My solution was to cut the axles down until the inner side of the wheels was in actual contact with the bogie part and with them superglued together. That meant the axles weren't the main stress bearing member any more, and were in shear anyway. Much stronger.

So many manufacturers make the same mistake, making their landing gear too 'scale' and therefore weaker, the Revell A-400M, in both scales, being a case in point.  :banghead:

Wait till you try the Hobby Boss 1/48 F-105 with its long, spindly legs........!  :banghead:  :angry:
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scautomoton

Quote from: PR19_Kit on December 24, 2024, 04:21:44 AMMy solution was to cut the axles down until the inner side of the wheels was in actual contact with the bogie part and with them superglued together. That meant the axles weren't the main stress bearing member any more, and were in shear anyway. Much stronger.
This is effectively what I did. The wheels just looked odd sat so far out anyway.

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NARSES2

Amazing build of a pig of a kit BUT it was the kit that brought Airfix back into everbody's attention and thus contributed a fair bit to their comeback.

I can remember going up to Hannant's shop at Colindale, when it was theirs and not the "franchise" one lunchtime from work and buying their entire stock of the newly released Xtradecal sets for them and taking them to Telford for the assembled masses.  ;D
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 24, 2024, 06:13:13 AMI can remember going up to Hannant's shop at Colindale, when it was theirs and not the "franchise" one lunchtime from work and buying their entire stock of the newly released Xtradecal sets for them and taking them to Telford for the assembled masses.  ;D


Hehehe, well worth the effort Chris.  :thumbsup:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Beermonster58 on December 24, 2024, 05:13:59 AMWait till you try the Hobby Boss 1/48 F-105 with its long, spindly legs........!  :banghead:  :angry:


I won't even think about it, it being 1/48. I've got a couple of 1/72 105 kits though.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

seadude

Well, that does it. No way any of us can compete with that. That is one really good aircraft model.
I quit. I'm going to pack up and sell my models and supplies.
Maybe I'll take up a new hobby. Like building LEGO.
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My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.


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