Hercules twin

[PR19_Kit]

I can't see much difference, they're both in the £70 mark, which I find OUTRAGEOUS!

When I bought my A-400M, the one I Whiffed into 'Snoopy Too' with the big nose boom, it was only HALF that price! 

[Beermonster58]

I can't see much difference, they're both in the £70 mark, which I find OUTRAGEOUS!

When I bought my A-400M, the one I Whiffed into 'Snoopy Too' with the big nose boom, it was only HALF that price! 

Well, it's no  more "outrageous" than the eye watering £60 that Airfix are demanding for the new Jaguar that so many ( myself not included) are salivating over!!  . it's also a very subjective comment. Not necessarily disagreeing with you though and, it can be obtained for a lot less then £70. I paid £45 and, £48 respectively for my pair. You DO get an awful lot of kit for your pennies though!   There's actually NO difference between the kits , other than a new set of decals (and the price).  I was tempted by the "Snoopy" option as well. Might still do it. because I hate boring grey jets. It's turbine powered so, I count it as a jet for modelling purposes   . I have yet to concoct the ABBBOG (Anything But Boring Bloody Overall Grey) schemes I'm going to use.

ps - was "Grizzly" not just an unofficial nickname used by the RAF during the pre delivery trials? I've also heard it was merely the radio call sign used. I think "Atlas" is actually a very good name but, I don't know if even that is official

[PR19_Kit]

AFAIK 'Grizzly' is what Airbus called it during flight tests, and it's stuck.

The Combat Models conversion for the C-130 fits the A-400M as if it was designed for it! It amazed me as I was expecting to do loads of PSR to the probe bit to fit properly, but almost none was required!

[Beermonster58]

AFAIK 'Grizzly' is what Airbus called it during flight tests, and it's stuck.

The Combat Models conversion for the C-130 fits the A-400M as if it was designed for it! It amazed me as I was expecting to do loads of PSR to the probe bit to fit properly, but almost none was required!

I'd heard about the Combat Models item but, haven't so far been able to locate one. Probably have to do it the old fashioned way! 😉😂.
I'm thinking part of a large scale drop tank along with an AAM or, ASM body could work for the probe. After all, it's a "whif" anyway! I've sort of figured out the other sticky out bits😊.

I've also decided that a C-130 used as the A400 engine test bed might be a nice idea. When I get around to building my turbofan powered (1/144) A400, I'll still have two engines left over  from the Revell kit after building  my twin Herc😊

That's interesting about Airbus actually using the nickname. I didn't know that. Still think it's a bit of a silly name though 😉

Wasn't it the old C-130 W2 that was actually used for the engine test bed?

[McColm]

I have found by researching the prices that the original 1/72 A400M kits go for around the £50, whereas the Atlas sells at around the £70 depending if there's a sale on as they can vary from the RRP.

[PR19_Kit]

Wasn't it the old C-130 W2 that was actually used for the engine test bed?

It was indeed. Marshall Aerospace 'de-snooted' the original W2 when the contract to test the TP400s came up, and they installed one in the #2 position.



Apparently it could fly on just the TP-400, which isn't surprising when you look at the relative sizes of them engines and props.

Combat Models are tied in with Colin Freightdog as they are always next to each other at shows, so he may be able to help finding them.

[Gondor]

Combat Kits have an ebay page *LINK* which has no W2 conversion set available at the moment. That doesn't stop you from dropping them a line to ask about them though.

Gondor

[Beermonster58]

Wasn't it the old C-130 W2 that was actually used for the engine test bed?

It was indeed. Marshall Aerospace 'de-snooted' the original W2 when the contract to test the TP400s came up, and they installed one in the #2 position.



Apparently it could fly on just the TP-400, which isn't surprising when you look at the relative sizes of them engines and props.

   If memory serves, one TP400 engine puts out almost as much power as three standard C-130 engines so, I could well believe that! .Given the breakdown of the respective kits, it probably won't be TOO difficult to fit the engine to the C-130 (famous last words). I can probably use milliput to fashion the large bump (technical term_ above the wing! .Has to be in "raspberry ripple " finish though. Well, this IS Whifworld after all . Actually, it just occurred to me that there aren't too many C-130 kits around in 1/144 and, I've only got a couple of Academy C-130Js. Might look good on the J instead.........!

[Beermonster58]

it's looking more likely that one of my 48th A-10s is gonna loose it's engines

There was an idea I saw where someone suggested cutting an A-10 behind the wing, putting a pusher turboprop engine back there with a top-mounted radiator scoop and you have a nifty light attack job.
Lose the 30mm and substitute a brace of something similar but single-barreled and go hunting.

Something I still plan, as and when I can excavate my A-10...

I'm having a similar idea for a A-10 turbo prop ground attack aircraft but in this very strange scale called 72nd scale   
Now if I had a 48th C-130 to play with I'd do a 48th one but woe is me on that front 😆

Don't know what this "1/48" thing is about 😉😂. However, I did once consider fitting a pair of CFM - 56 hairdryers to a true scale C-130. They were donated by the Airfix ( Ex Heller) E-3 kit which had options for two engines.
The pylons were fairly short and, ground clearance looked OK but, it never came about because I ended up building the E-3 as the RAF version anyway

Monster mate I do understand your frustration with this scale thingy..I to have this issue with this 72nd scale I read chaps talking about and they say it's the one true scale...so I've no idea what that's about..it's all very strange actually bud 😳 😀 😉

Don't worry about it. You will see the light. God will guide you to the true path!   . I find 1/72 the most practical scale as, even very large aircraft (I have a Revell 1/72 B-36) are doable. The B-36 incidentally will probably finish up in RAF Dark green/ Dark Earth/ Black because I dislike natural metal finishes almost as much as I dislike boring , grey jets...!

[PR19_Kit]

  If memory serves, one TP400 engine puts out almost as much power as three standard C-130 engines so, I could well believe that! .

Like G-AXLR, the RB-211 testbed VC-10.

That was quicker on the single RB-211 and than using all four Conways when it had them. It was so quick they had to throttle it back during flight testing and the extra power so bent the airframe that then RAF never did revert it to its original 4 engined form!

[Rick Lowe]

Kit - the one on the title heading here?
https://www.britairliners.org/airliners-article?title=a-history-of-engine-testbeds&id=30

I've seen a picture of a B-17 with a stonking great turboprop mounted on the nose, turning away and all the Wrights switched off and feathered...

Oh look - there it is, partway down that page.

The T-34 engine as used on the C-133.

[PR19_Kit]

Yeah, that one.

Hobbes has done a SUPERB model of it in 1/144 too, he's shown it at quite a few Telford shows. 

[McColm]

The Lockheed Constellation paint scheme looks ideal for my next Connie project.

[Wardukw]

it's looking more likely that one of my 48th A-10s is gonna loose it's engines

There was an idea I saw where someone suggested cutting an A-10 behind the wing, putting a pusher turboprop engine back there with a top-mounted radiator scoop and you have a nifty light attack job.
Lose the 30mm and substitute a brace of something similar but single-barreled and go hunting.

Something I still plan, as and when I can excavate my A-10...

I'm having a similar idea for a A-10 turbo prop ground attack aircraft but in this very strange scale called 72nd scale   
Now if I had a 48th C-130 to play with I'd do a 48th one but woe is me on that front 😆

Don't know what this "1/48" thing is about 😉😂. However, I did once consider fitting a pair of CFM - 56 hairdryers to a true scale C-130. They were donated by the Airfix ( Ex Heller) E-3 kit which had options for two engines.
The pylons were fairly short and, ground clearance looked OK but, it never came about because I ended up building the E-3 as the RAF version anyway

Monster mate I do understand your frustration with this scale thingy..I to have this issue with this 72nd scale I read chaps talking about and they say it's the one true scale...so I've no idea what that's about..it's all very strange actually bud 😳 😀 😉

Don't worry about it. You will see the light. God will guide you to the true path!   . I find 1/72 the most practical scale as, even very large aircraft (I have a Revell 1/72 B-36) are doable. The B-36 incidentally finish up in RAF Dark green/ Dark Earth/ Black because I dislike natural metal finishes almost as much as I dislike boring , grey jets...!

Oh the gods did guide me monster mate ..it's called 1/35th scale 😆 🤣
I know the B-36. ..had two em over the decades and bloody near had another one a wee while ago but common sense got the better of me 
Had the B-52 aswell and id have both again if I had the space 🙃
Dude I really do like your paint colour choice for your 36 ...that would look so different and im'a liking that muchly 😃

[kerick]

SEA scheme on a B-36!