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What's this bit on the DH Mosquito?

Started by The Rat, January 22, 2025, 08:00:35 AM

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The Rat

I've tried searching, but perhaps without the correct terms, because I have no idea what the term would be. There's a long horizontal protruding thingy on the starboard side of the fuselage, extending back from the trailing edge of the wing. No similar thingy on the port side. I've often wondered what it is, can someone help? (Once someone tells me what it is, I will probably forget within days...)

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Nick

I think this is a reinforcement strake because of the access door below.

Go to the last set of pictures 70-73 on here https://www.largescaleplanes.com/walkaround/wk.php?wid=123

This is also informative: https://ww2aircraft.net/forum/threads/dh98-mosquito-external-fuselage-strake-reinforcement.58275/

The Rat

Quote from: Nick on January 22, 2025, 08:32:22 AMI think this is a reinforcement strake because of the access door below.

AHA! Now I won't forget it, because that was my first thought. Just couldn't figure out why it was only on one side, but the door placement makes sense. Thanks!  :thumbsup:
"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

The Wooksta!

#3
Reinforcement as with the hatch there, it was a natural weak point.  The early short nacelle bombers didn't have it, neither did the early night fighters.

The Sea Mosquitoes, as well as the B.IVs and PR.XVIs modified for and operated by 618 Sqn for Operation Oxtail, had the hatch moved underneath and a second strake on the port side.  There were also three PR16s converted for carrier ops post war, (RG171-173), in a similar manner.

This one, RG173, had me intrigued for years, until I finally managed to get some decent photos to confirm my suspicions.

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One of a number of former Royal Navy PR16s that were intended for the Israelis but left to rot at Thruxton after they were refused permission to fly.  Note the port side reinforcement strake and the arrestor hook mount.

The TT39s had the strake removed but others further aft either side.


One of the others at Thruxton - IN COLOUR! - with a view of said hatch.

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The FAA seem to have used quite a few Mosquito PR16s post war, mostly for training.  One of the three navalised ones retained it's PRU Blue scheme and had four blade props.

Some of the Australian produced Mosquitos had the port reinforcement strake too, the PR41s did as there's a camera hatch on the port side.

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The PR41 is interesting, largely as it's an FB40 (FB6) but with cameras and two stage Merlins.

PR19_Kit

What was that aft hatch for, access to the cameras?
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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The Wooksta!

Certainly on the PR ones, as the PR.IV  had an oblique camera in the fuselage side aft of the wing on the port side, whereas the PR.IX/XVI had one looking down on the curve of the fuselage port side base aft of the bomb bay.

Plus access to Oxygen bottles and any electronics not fitted inside the cockpit.  The radios were elsewhere in some of the fighter nose Mosquitoes.

PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

Quote from: The Wooksta! on January 22, 2025, 03:16:03 PMCertainly on the PR ones, as the PR.IV  had an oblique camera in the fuselage side aft of the wing on the port side, whereas the PR.IX/XVI had one looking down on the curve of the fuselage port side base aft of the bomb bay.

Plus access to Oxygen bottles and any electronics not fitted inside the cockpit.  The radios were elsewhere in some of the fighter nose Mosquitoes.

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"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

Youtube: https://tinyurl.com/46dpfdpr

The Wooksta!

Quote from: The Rat on January 22, 2025, 08:00:35 AMI've tried searching, but perhaps without the correct terms, because I have no idea what the term would be. There's a long horizontal protruding thingy on the starboard side of the fuselage, extending back from the trailing edge of the wing. No similar thingy on the port side. I've often wondered what it is, can someone help? (Once someone tells me what it is, I will probably forget within days...)



Percival production Mosquito B.XVIs.  They had a unique scheme, as all the other manufacturers had the undersurface colour up to a line following the top cowl, whereas Percival had the upper surface colours swooping down.  Always liked that photo.

zenrat

There is at least one episode of The Avengers where Steed and Mrs Peel (and IIRC in one case Roy Kinnear) are running around an airfield amongst parked up Mosquitos.  They have the nose glazing painted over and fake gun barrels attached.
The Diana Rigg years were '65 to '67.
i've always assumed that these aircraft were the ones that had been used to film 633 Squadron in '64 - TT35s modified as above.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

The Wooksta!

#10
Probably filmed at Bovingdon, which is where the film Mosquitoes were based.  Away from my references so can't check.

But going going back to Ratty's question, and my own witless burbling about navalised Mosquitoes, I found this photo lurking in a folder that I didn't know I had.

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RG173, which I posted earlier upthread, in earlier days with one of the Navy training units.  You can see the strengthening strip but no hatch, as well as the arrestor hook underneath and the four blade prop which were replaced at some point.  If you squint a bit, you can just about make out the unit codes, which would be in yellow.

The Rat

"My mind is a raging torrent, flooded with rivulets of thought, cascading into a waterfall of creative alternatives." Hedley Lamarr, Blazing Saddles

Life is too short to worry about perfection

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Nick

Quote from: The Wooksta! on January 24, 2025, 04:35:54 AMProbably filmed at Bovingdon, which is where the film Mosquitoes were based.  Away from my references so can't check.


It was Bovingdon aka RAF Hamelin. https://aviationtrails.wordpress.com/2017/01/29/raf-bovingdon-the-hour-that-never-was/

Going from vague memory.... Steed and Peel pass out from a car crash and find the base deserted. Strange things happen involving time stopping and they find some fiendish plot to take over the RAF by drugs or mind control.

Bovingdon has been used for many TV and film appearances - https://bovingdonairfieldstudios.com/about/history

zenrat

Quote from: Nick on January 28, 2025, 03:24:56 AM
Quote from: The Wooksta! on January 24, 2025, 04:35:54 AMProbably filmed at Bovingdon, which is where the film Mosquitoes were based.  Away from my references so can't check.


It was Bovingdon aka RAF Hamelin. https://aviationtrails.wordpress.com/2017/01/29/raf-bovingdon-the-hour-that-never-was/

Going from vague memory.... Steed and Peel pass out from a car crash and find the base deserted. Strange things happen involving time stopping and they find some fiendish plot to take over the RAF by drugs or mind control.

Bovingdon has been used for many TV and film appearances - https://bovingdonairfieldstudios.com/about/history

Thanks mate.   :thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

The Wooksta!

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 22, 2025, 02:39:18 PMWhat was that aft hatch for, access to the cameras?

I remembered your mention when I found this image earlier whilst trawling.  Note the fingers in the darkness.

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