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Started by kerick, February 25, 2025, 08:46:35 PM

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PR19_Kit

Sound about as stupid as car prototype designations.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Wardukw

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 05, 2025, 02:10:36 AMSound about as stupid as car prototype designations.
Basically...not alot of imagination going on there I would suspect 😆
Once ya understand it tho it's a pretty simple system..ya want a real mind bender ..the Japanese with their Type system...everything seems to be Type this or Type that and ya really have to know how that works to sort out it's yr .
Here's one for ya bud...Isuzu Type 94a (TU 10) light truck...the number indicates it was built in 1934 or 2594 in the Japanese system  :o  :unsure:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

scooter

Quote from: kerick on April 04, 2025, 02:25:47 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 04, 2025, 10:42:15 AMOh no!

Why do they give the SAME number to a tank and a rifle?  :-\

Each has a name and the M number. Try understanding the designation for different variations! Then there is the T number for new designs and prototypes that has nothing to do with the M number that is given if the item is actually accepted........

And then there's the stock listing (FSN/NSN).  And each component of that piece of equipment has its own separate stock number.
The F-106- 26 December 1956 to 8 August 1988
Gone But Not Forgotten

QuoteOh are you from Wales ?? Do you know a fella named Jonah ?? He used to live in whales for a while.
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Rick Lowe

It's all so that 'Those in the Know' can look down on those who try to use the correct designation, but sound silly because they don't really understand the system...
Not saying it's right, just human nature... :-\

PR19_Kit

Don't get me going about 'NATO Stock Numbers' please!  :banghead:

When you already have a pretty obscure model and part no. system going in your company, and then have to apply an NSN to EACH single item as well! It's enough to drive sane people to drink, even if they don't!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

I remember some forty-odd years ago when I was in the RAF, stationed on the north Cornish coast, stores got a phone call asking why they had just ordered a Battleship? Apparently they had got one digit wrong in a parts request.  :rolleyes:

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

zenrat

Quote from: Rick Lowe on April 05, 2025, 07:16:32 PMIt's all so that 'Those in the Know' can look down on those who try to use the correct designation, but sound silly because they don't really understand the system...
Not saying it's right, just human nature... :-\

You've tried buying something you are not quite sure the name of from a plumbing trade wholesaler haven't you...
 :-\
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

kerick

Quote from: Gondor on April 06, 2025, 05:08:36 AMI remember some forty-odd years ago when I was in the RAF, stationed on the north Cornish coast, stores got a phone call asking why they had just ordered a Battleship? Apparently they had got one digit wrong in a parts request.  :rolleyes:

Gondor

A legendary story in the USAF about a cargo plane wing being actually delivered to a fighter base because of a missed digit.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

scooter

Quote from: Rick Lowe on April 05, 2025, 07:16:32 PMIt's all so that 'Those in the Know' can look down on those who try to use the correct designation, but sound silly because they don't really understand the system...
Not saying it's right, just human nature... :-\
But then again, you're not going to draw out an Abrams from the arms room, just as you're not going to motor pool to sign out a carbine.

Quote from: kerick on April 06, 2025, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: Gondor on April 06, 2025, 05:08:36 AMI remember some forty-odd years ago when I was in the RAF, stationed on the north Cornish coast, stores got a phone call asking why they had just ordered a Battleship? Apparently they had got one digit wrong in a parts request.  :rolleyes:

Gondor

A legendary story in the USAF about a cargo plane wing being actually delivered to a fighter base because of a missed digit.

I got told a story by one of the cops in my hometown, back when I used to do the ambulance thing, that his brother, a former F-4 mechanic with the Air Force, switched a couple of numbers when ordering parts for the Toom he was working on...and got a call from a certain three letter agency, because he'd wound up ordering a part for the Blackbird.
The F-106- 26 December 1956 to 8 August 1988
Gone But Not Forgotten

QuoteOh are you from Wales ?? Do you know a fella named Jonah ?? He used to live in whales for a while.
— Groucho Marx

My dA page: Scooternjng

NARSES2

And there's me thinking the Customs Tarrif system was complicated  :angel:  ;D

At least the World's customs authorities could agree on the first 6 digits. EU took it to 8 and during my time I think the US mananged to eke it out to 13. Lawd knows what it is now  :angel:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Customs Tariff codes pale into insignificance beside NATO Stock Numbers!

When you're actually shipping something that has an NSM abroad, then it gets REALLY crazy!  :banghead:  :banghead:  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

kerick

While I was at the Roscoe Turner Invitational in Indianapolis, Indiana I stumbled across a set of resin wheels for a 5 ton truck. I wasn't even looking for it but for ten bucks I said sure! I don't know if they will work as the brake drums are molded in and they look kind of skinny. The brake drum problem would cause me to chop up the axles which I would rather not do at this point. Here's a picture so let me know what you guys think.





The detail on the side of the tire and wheel is great.



Compared to the military tire they look skinny. There's no practical way to widen them either that I can see.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Old Wombat

Military tyres are often a bit wider & built tougher than civilian tyres, & the tread is more "all-terrain".

However, the civvies should still be quite functional, maybe even a touch more "optimal", for regular road driving.
Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

"The purpose of all War is Peace" - St. Augustine

veritas ad mortus veritas est

Wardukw

There's a few large benefits using civilian truck tyres over military tyres on big trucks ..there quieter ..much easier to steer and have better all round performance in all weather's on tar sealed roads ...they do pretty good offroad to a point..the braking is better and so is keeping in a straight line while driving with many less corrections .
Better fuel economy too .
You'll see that the front tyres on alot of Vietnam War gun trucks had civiy front tyres on the front..much easier steering and control 😀
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

I'm going ahead with the kit tires and wheels. If I had found these civilian tires and wheels earlier before I glued all the axles together I probably would have used them. Oh well, saved for next time.
The Slammer is now overall sand. I have pictures to prove it!



Side view.



Bull bars.



Backside.



And the ladder still works!
A great deal of final assembly still needs to be done but this is a major hurdle to have overcome. I'm anxious to get the wheels on ASAP. I have decals I made and some from both kits. I just wish I had some gloss that didn't change the color. The paint right now looks just right. At least by the time I get back the paint will be thoroughly dry and ready for gloss of one kind or another.
Tomorrow starts our trip to sunny Florida. Saturday is already booked for a fishing trip. I hope I catch some something for dinner! No, not the flu either!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise