Go fast, go vertical, go nowhere

Started by CammNut, March 01, 2025, 11:47:19 AM

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CammNut

I think we've decided this was a bad idea. I just have to come up with a backstory that makes it a particularly bad idea.

Anigrand 1/72 Rockwell XFV-12A experimental supersonic V/STOL shipborne fighter.


NASA image

Weaver

Come up with some cynical business+politics maneuver to force a barely-working version into service, then have it let the Navy down horribly?
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

sandiego89

ohh, like this!

how heavy would you say the kit is?  Like 4-5 times an injected kit? 
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Wardukw

I loved that plane since the first time I saw it ..one thing tho ..is that a A-4 cockpit canopy I'm seeing cause I thought I've seen it before but could never be bothered to find out  ;D
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

scautomoton

I've been thinking of getting this kit myself, but have to many others to do first. And yes, wasn't it an A4 cockpit, F4 fuselage and then the rest was the experimental stuff?

CammNut

Weight? Maybe twice injection moulded. I'll find an A-4 kit and compare. It's not heavy but I still might try to find substitute injection-moulded landing gear, to be safe.

And yes, A-4 nose, F-4 intakes and F-4 wing box. I am not planning to deviate such from the stock kit. Maybe make the cockpit a full bubble as it comes that way.

Artists' impressions of the planned operational aircraft show it with twinned Sidewinder rails on the outsides of the endplate tails, so that's a possibility.

Wardukw

Thanks for that chaps ..the feeling has been made happy 😊
Least landing won't be a problem to get ..they are A-4 Skyhawk and there's plenty of models of those out there 😉
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

kerick

Quote from: CammNut on March 01, 2025, 04:03:43 PMWeight? Maybe twice injection moulded. I'll find an A-4 kit and compare. It's not heavy but I still might try to find substitute injection-moulded landing gear, to be safe.

And yes, A-4 nose, F-4 intakes and F-4 wing box. I am not planning to deviate such from the stock kit. Maybe make the cockpit a full bubble as it comes that way.

Artists' impressions of the planned operational aircraft show it with twinned Sidewinder rails on the outsides of the endplate tails, so that's a possibility.

See if an A-4M canopy might fit. Or bulge it outward like a Malcome hood.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

NARSES2

I built that many moons ago. I like Anigrand, they are chunky and take some cleaning up, but do some great subjects  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

CammNut

Anigrand moulds the thrust-augmentor flaps on the canard and wing so they can be cut free and posed open for vertical flight, if desired. I so desired.



Also I hunted out some injection-moulded A-4 landing gear (Hasegawa) and I need to find better F-4 inlet ramps, which I have somewhere.


jcf

Two J85s scabbed onto the fuselage purely used to increase the flow of air through
the silly lift system. Complete dead weight when not in operation.

Scans of a Rockwell brochure available here:
Rockwell XFV-12 brochure

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CammNut

No J85s that I can see, just the one Pratt YF401 and lot of ducting.

Inlet ducts painted to clear the way for fuselage join (I need to do another degrease of the resin, I think). Anigrand's wall thicknesses are not as bad as some resin makers', but nowhere near as fine a Planet Models!



Located F-4 inlet ramps, but will need some surgery. There are photographs of the XFV-12A online with the perforated panels removed from the inlet ramps and the boundary-layer ducting exposed and these must have persuaded Anigrand to mold the ridges onto the ramps - erroneously.

The other thing missing from the kit is the plug for the nozzle. This was used to block the nozzle in vertical lift mode and divert the engine exhaust to the thrust-augmentor ducting. The plug moved aft  to unplug the nozzle for horizontal flight.

buzzbomb

As a build this is going along quite well.

jcf

Quote from: CammNut on March 03, 2025, 02:13:43 PMNo J85s that I can see, just the one Pratt YF401 and lot of ducting.

Inlet ducts painted to clear the way for fuselage join (I need to do another degrease of the resin, I think). Anigrand's wall thicknesses are not as bad as some resin makers', but nowhere near as fine a Planet Models!



Located F-4 inlet ramps, but will need some surgery. There are photographs of the XFV-12A online with the perforated panels removed from the inlet ramps and the boundary-layer ducting exposed and these must have persuaded Anigrand to mold the ridges onto the ramps - erroneously.

The other thing missing from the kit is the plug for the nozzle. This was used to block the nozzle in vertical lift mode and divert the engine exhaust to the thrust-augmentor ducting. The plug moved aft  to unplug the nozzle for horizontal flight.
I was joking about them adding two J85s in an attempt to get the lift system to work.
;)

kerick

Quote from: jcf on March 04, 2025, 10:40:59 AM
Quote from: CammNut on March 03, 2025, 02:13:43 PMNo J85s that I can see, just the one Pratt YF401 and lot of ducting.

Inlet ducts painted to clear the way for fuselage join (I need to do another degrease of the resin, I think). Anigrand's wall thicknesses are not as bad as some resin makers', but nowhere near as fine a Planet Models!



Located F-4 inlet ramps, but will need some surgery. There are photographs of the XFV-12A online with the perforated panels removed from the inlet ramps and the boundary-layer ducting exposed and these must have persuaded Anigrand to mold the ridges onto the ramps - erroneously.

The other thing missing from the kit is the plug for the nozzle. This was used to block the nozzle in vertical lift mode and divert the engine exhaust to the thrust-augmentor ducting. The plug moved aft  to unplug the nozzle for horizontal flight.
I was joking about them adding two J85s in an attempt to get the lift system to work.
;)

Only if they point straight down!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise