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The English Electric Dalgety, the 'Just in case' project.

Started by PR19_Kit, March 04, 2025, 06:46:33 AM

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Martin H

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 20, 2025, 06:53:53 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on March 19, 2025, 08:50:02 PMI'd be inclined to leave the exhausts off, from now on, until all the rough handling is done. :banghead:


I'm definitely doing that, I was just trialling them for fit y'day.

But good 'Ole Alastair has come up trumps with an offer to send me lots of correct exhausts, so expect a bunch of radial engined Spitfire XIVs to appear from Scotland soon, or maybe even jet powered ones!  :o

Stanger things model wise have been known to come from North of the border  ;D  ;D
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Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 20, 2025, 06:53:53 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on March 19, 2025, 08:50:02 PMI'd be inclined to leave the exhausts off, from now on, until all the rough handling is done. :banghead:


I'm definitely doing that, I was just trialling them for fit y'day.

But good 'Ole Alastair has come up trumps with an offer to send me lots of correct exhausts, so expect a bunch of radial engined Spitfire XIVs to appear from Scotland soon, or maybe even jet powered ones!  :o

Less of the 'Ole Alastair if you don't mind. The total number of exhaust stacks are enough for two and a half engines, so don't mess them up! One pair was spare, one half is floating around somewhere, and the other came out of another kit which will get the parts replaced with aftermarket bits over time as those builds are in no rush and Kit needs the exhaust far sooner than I will.

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

I've got the port engine back in position now, and have figured out a better method of fairing the Griffon nacelle into what's left of the Avon's engine cowling, which I'll do from the outset on the starboard engine of course. Lots more PSR to come there, needless to say.

I've got the prop nicely fitted to the port engine, and taking a leaf out of Dizzy's book, I've made it removable and rotatable, thanks for the tips Thomas.  :thumbsup:

I've also written up the backstory, but not too sure whether to post it yet or not.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

PR19_Kit

After a zillion PSR sessions on the wing and nacelle, at last it's getting there.

Here's the whole shebang so far, complete with dorsal fin and prop in place too.



Sadly the Airfix B6's bulbous nose is only too apparent, so I'll be having at it with a big file later on.

Here's a close up of the nacelle, needs a bit of tidying up but it's pretty much there now.

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

That looks very nice Kit. The shapes work very well together and I see what you mean about the nose. Was the designer related to a Mr Durante?

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Pellson

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buzzbomb

Oh my oh my... once done bung that on a table and watch the quizzical looks  ;D

Looking really nice

PR19_Kit

The only problem is I have to do the starboard wing and nacelle the same! Lots more PSR etc. :(
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

The Rat

That looks absolutely natural.  :wub:

Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 21, 2025, 01:08:36 PMHere's a close up of the nacelle, needs a bit of tidying up but it's pretty much there now.


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loupgarou

I don't see anything wrong with the nose, but such SHORT  wings !  :o   ;D
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perttime

I've been wondering.....
The Griffons, with all their weight, are placed much more forward than the jet engines on a Canberra. What equipment gets installed towards the tail, to let the Dalgety balance well?

PR19_Kit

Quote from: loupgarou on March 22, 2025, 10:11:29 AMI don't see anything wrong with the nose, but such SHORT  wings !  :o  ;D


Yeah, they are a bit clipped, but that's the way Petter drew them.

The nose of the Airfix B6 is too fat, mainly because the bomb aimer's transparency is too long and its frame is then too large in diameter. For the Dalgety I glued the transparency in place, after filling it with Blue Tak, and then sanded the frame away before priming all over it. It was still a bit too bulged in side view, but since those pics I've filed a lot of the bulge away, comparing it with the more accurate Aeroclub conversion, and now it looks a lot better, much more 'Canberra like'.


Quote from: perttime on March 22, 2025, 11:16:45 AMThe Griffons, with all their weight, are placed much more forward than the jet engines on a Canberra. What equipment gets installed towards the tail, to let the Dalgety balance well?


English Electric got their hands on a small amount of megamassium that the MoD released from stocks that were generated during the initial nuclear research work at Harwell, and this was carried in the flare bay of the Dalgety. That's right at the rear of the bomb bay, and that nicely balanced out the mass of the Griffons. (Kit's 2nd Rule applies.....)

(Of course in the plastic world the exact OPPOSITE is the problem, it's impossible to build any model of a Canberra OOB and NOT end up with it being a tailsitter, thus I stuffed the equivalent amount of Blue Tak into the nose and the Griffon nacelles if this model. Luckily I had the Aeroclub conversion kit to hand too, complete with its white metal ejection seat. Airfix even supply a small strut for you to place under the tail of the model!)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit