The Focke Wulf Alternativer Antriebsflügel

[Wardukw]

I would have thought that those proplets pods had there own engines..but nope..super complicated time 
Love it 😀

[PR19_Kit]

Any other guesses where the proplets come from? 

P-61 Black Widow?

Not them either. They're 1/144 scale..............

[Wardukw]

How's about a Vickers Viscount Kit ?

[loupgarou]

And here's the complete rotor/wing, with its proplets in place.

Yeah, yeah, I KNOW the write up says those blobby things on the rotor/wing tips are ramjets, but everyone knows that's a load of cobblers, they're gearbox fairings, OK?

I thought those would be turboprop engines, and the fuselage just a BIG fuel tank, with an appropriately complicated plumbing.

[PR19_Kit]

How's about a Vickers Viscount Kit ?

Closer, but no banana. Actually they came from one of these, and the kit only had three props anyway. 

I thought those would be turboprop engines, and the fuselage just a BIG fuel tank, with an appropriately complicated plumbing.

Oh no, that'd be far too simple, I wanted to make it REALLY complicated.   

[Gondor]

That would be one hell of a gear arrangement to drive those props unless you want to make them hydraulically powered.

Gondor

[zenrat]

If there was a Db 606 in each pod it would have one turning and three burning...

[PR19_Kit]

That would be one hell of a gear arrangement to drive those props unless you want to make them hydraulically powered.

Why didn't I think of that? But if it was 1945/6 era Focke Wulf thinking they'd have probably made it all electrical. 

[Gondor]

That would be one hell of a gear arrangement to drive those props unless you want to make them hydraulically powered.

Why didn't I think of that? But if it was 1945/6 era Focke Wulf thinking they'd have probably made it all electrical. 

Ohhh, electric! I can see it now, a dam great lump of an engine driving a huge generator that then has some nice slip-rings as contacts between the fuselage and rotatable wings with rotating electric motors at their tips. Lovley    Not much to go wrong at all 

Gondor

[frank2056]

It could still be a gas engine - the main blade's spin would push fuel to the proplet engines without the need for fuel pumps. There was a insane design for a re-entry helicopter called the Roton Rotary Rocket that used this principle

[PR19_Kit]

There was a insane design for a re-entry helicopter called the Roton Rotary Rocket that used this principle

I remember seeing a vid of one of the only three test flights of the Concept Test Vehicle for that machine. It looked decidedly odd and obviously had some 'Triebflugel' influence upon it.

[Wardukw]

Taking off in a fully functional Triebflugel ..no worries.
Landing in a Triebflugel..yep worries 😟 

[PR19_Kit]

Landing in a Triebflugel..yep worries 😟 

Too right, Skeets Coleman, Convair's test pilot for the XFY-1 Pogo said that taking off was just a matter of '....opening in the taps and hanging on.....' but landing was '.....a whole different ball of wax!'

They flew a USN helicopter alongside the Pogo's landing site at 20 ft approx. so he had some positive marker for reference.

[Rheged]

I had a go  at 'finding'  elements of Winkle Brown's report on the "original" treibsflugel  in August 2021.  One can find it here:-  https://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?topic=49621.msg932850#msg932850  if one wishes to read it in conjunction with  Kit's information.

[PR19_Kit]

I'd forgotten that backstory, AND the model! Both are superb.