F-14 Tomcat

Started by Matt Wiser, April 02, 2004, 10:59:05 PM

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GTX

single Seat F-14 anyone:



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Single seat F-14 & Su-33 canopy!  :wacko:

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Zeke

That's rather sexy really isn't it?
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GTX

One for the Tomcat fans:



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Greg
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Jschmus

Is there any information, speculative or otherwise, about upgrades to Iran's F-14As?  I ask because I've been checking out airliners.net this week, and some Iranian spotters have posted photos of aircraft which participated in the exercises there last week.  Check out this shot of three F-14s:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Iran---Air/Grumman-F-14A-Tomcat/1585309/L

Is it me, or have the nosecones been reprofiled?  I also notice the electro-optical sensors are missing from under the noses.  I've looked at photos from when they were delivered, and they were definitely supplied with those sensors.

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Scooterman

Jschmus, the radomes are just painted differently.  They did that when they switched to the blues scheme.  And when delivered, the Tomcats only had the (empty) ECM bump.  Promo pics prior to delivery showed the IR scanner but the Iranians wanted the TCS system but it wasn't developed fully before the embargo.

Jschmus

Ah, thanks.  I did not know.
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dy031101

I heard that the USN intended to have the Tomcats acting as a stand-in for AEW purpose a carrier's E-2 fleet be for any reason unable to sortie.

Does anyone know how that works?  And if I want to represent such a capability on another aircraft, would someone suggest how?  Would it be like to add an antenna fairing or something?

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The scanning range of the AWG-9 was so great that, if used as a AWACs aircraft, the aircraft would not need any modification. Iran used it's Cats in this manner during the Iran-Iraq war.
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Quote from: Shasper on June 16, 2010, 06:33:16 PM
The scanning range of the AWG-9 was so great that, if used as a AWACs aircraft, the aircraft would not need any modification. Iran used it's Cats in this manner during the Iran-Iraq war.

Would their RIOs (I'd assume that the Tomcat would be operating in larger formations in this scenario) be functioning like the mission crew aboard an AEW plane?
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Plus the radar imagery would be monitored by operators in the Carriers CIC via the JTIDS link.
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Quote from: simmie on June 17, 2010, 02:38:58 AM
Plus the radar imagery would be monitored by operators in the Carriers CIC via the JTIDS link.

Does the datalink system have some kind of a transmitter/receiver antenna?

Google Image seems to have yielded only shipboard antennae......  :banghead:
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Wikipedia says the following:
"The Joint Tactical Information Distribution System (JTIDS) is an L band TDMA network radio system used by the United States armed forces and their allies to support data communications needs, principally in the air and missile defense community. It provides high-jam-resistance, high-speed, crypto-secure computer-to-computer connectivity in support of every type of military platform from Air Force fighters to Navy submarines. The full development of JTIDS commenced in 1981 when a contract was placed with Singer-Kearfott (later GEC-Marconi Electronic Systems, now BAE Systems E&IS). Fielding proceeded slowly throughout the late 1980s and early 1990s with rapid expansion (following 9/11) in preparation for Operation Enduring Freedom (Afghanistan) and Operation Iraqi Freedom. Development is now carried out by Data Link Solutions, a joint BAE/Rockwell Collins company.

JTIDS is one of the family of radio equipment implementing what is called Link 16. Link 16, a highly-survivable radio communications design to meet the most stringent requirements of modern combat, provides reliable Situational Awareness (SA) for fast-moving forces. Link 16 equipment has proven, in detailed field demonstrations as well as in the AWACS and JSTARS deployment in Desert Storm, the capability of basic Link 16 to exchange user data at 115 kbit/s, error-correction-coded. (Compare this to typical tactical systems at 16 kbit/s, which also have to accommodate overheads in excess of 50% to supply the same transmission reliability.)

While principally a data network, Link 16 radios can provide high quality voice channels and navigation services as accurate as any in the inventory. Every Link 16 user can identify itself to other similarly equipped platforms at ranges well beyond what Mark XII IFF systems can provide. Additionally, Link 16-equipped platforms capable of identification through other means (such as radar and TENCAP Blue Force Tracking) can pass that "indirect" identification data as part of its SA exchange. The capabilities of Link 16 are best represented by the JTIDS or its follow-on Multi-functional Information Distribution MIDS terminals. The TADIL-J message format forms the basis for the mandates in the DoD Tactical Data Link Management Plan.

There are benefits to the full-scale implementation of the two key elements of Link-16: (1) the message "catalog" and (2) the specific radio waveform (i.e., frequency hopped, Lx-band CPSM, spread-spectrum and Reed-Solomon coding, omni-directional broadcast). Link 16 terminals implement the "NI" node-to-node protocols as well as one or more of the ICD-compliant user interfaces.

John B. Kennedy, while a young engineer at ITT Avionics in Nutley, New Jersey, first envisioned the idea of this "spread spectrum" technology. His breakthrough idea was to break up transmissions into discrete packets of data and send them over multiple frequencies to be reassembled at the receiving end. This would allow much more information to be sent and received. At the time senders and receivers shared one frequency necessitating the "over and out" and "roger" type syntax so familiar to military communication at the time. Mr. Kennedy planned a more familiar type of communication between jets in a dog fight, for instance, that would not only be telephone-like, the ability to talk over each other, but also allow simultaneous sharing of friend or foe and location/speed data. Mr. Kennedy was disappointed when the realities of military contracting required ITT to share this information with their west coast competitor Rockwell International and then compete against them for the final contract. Rockwell won this competition and JTIDS, John's baby, was forever linked to their name.

JTIDS is also used by the UK armed forces and is fitted to the majority of the UKs tornado F3 fleet."

I know that the system works with mobile ground stations or the army for real time situational awareness (and other big words!!).

Fighters can transfer data/video to ground, AWACS or ships.  They can receive data so that crews are more aware who is were in the sky around them, this is the same for ground units such as armour.  It is sort of like a military mobile internet.

However the US DOD call this "The Electronic Battlefield".

HOpe that clears thing up a bit.
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