Trainers With Teeth and COIN Group Build

[ysi_maniac]

Is this acceptable?
Does she need external stores?

[chrisonord]

That certainly looks the part, but you might have to spoil it by covering the undersides of the wings with rocket pods bombs and heavy caliber gun pods.Just as a matter of interest, what is your plane made from ie donor aircraft, I think it looks pretty cool.
Chris.

[ysi_maniac]

Just pieces from many kits in different scales . Still in planning phase.

[Spey_Phantom]

Is this acceptable?
Does she need external stores?

in my eyes it is 
could be quite easy to build

-underside fuselage from a 1/144 SU-47
-upper fuselage and radar cone from an 1/72 SU-27UB/SU-30
-tailplanes from an SU-27
-wings from an 1/72 SU-47 (swept back)
-an engine from an SU-27
-putty, lots and lots of putty

[Hman]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=2khN2fnfvV0

Interesting vid!

[pyro-manic]

Pretty cool!

A question regarding this build - I have an idea for a COIN aircraft, but it's not based on a "trainer" as such. It's a prop job from WW2, so I assume this will be OK?

[Daryl J.]

Was there ever a trainer version of the TSR.2 planned?   And if yes, what external missiles could/would it have carried? 
Daryl J., hoping the question is in the right thread......

[philp]

Pretty cool!

A question regarding this build - I have an idea for a COIN aircraft, but it's not based on a "trainer" as such. It's a prop job from WW2, so I assume this will be OK?

With the combination of formats, any COIN build will be just fine.

[pyro-manic]

Good good.

[Weaver]

Was there ever a trainer version of the TSR.2 planned?   And if yes, what external missiles could/would it have carried? 
Daryl J., hoping the question is in the right thread......

There was a discussion somewhere back on this thread about trainer versions of front-line jets, and it was agreed (I think) that they shouldn't be elegible for this GB. The thinking is that the "spirit" of this GB is armed adaptions of aircraft whose primary role is training, hence the merger with the COIN thread. Having said that, the "official" rules for this GB have yet to be posted.

And in answer to the question - I don't know.... I'd imagine there'd have to be, just as there are "full twin-stick" Tornados, but whether any work was done on them or what they'd look like (given the lousy view out of the back of a TSR.2) I don't know.

[Spey_Phantom]

personally, i dont think a 2-seat TSR-2 is eligable.
same goes for the F/A-18D/F, F-16B/D/F,.....
cause most, if not all, 2-seat versions of fighterjets are more strike aircraft rather then trainers.

to me, as said before by Weaver, a COIN aircraft is an armed adaption of a pure-trainer aircraft or observation planes, such as the Tucano, Hawk, Alpha-jet, L-39, A/T-37,.....or even light subsonic aircraft.

the A-10 could also be a COIN platform, as it is one already, see O/A-10A.

although COIN aircraft can also be a specific designed aircraft such as the A-67 Dragonfly, A-1 Skyraider, OV-10 bronco, OV-1 Mohawk,...

[Daryl J.]

Got it.   


Daryl J.

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

personally, i dont think a 2-seat TSR-2 is eligable.
same goes for the F/A-18D/F, F-16B/D/F,.....
cause most, if not all, 2-seat versions of fighterjets are more strike aircraft rather then trainers.

to me, as said before by Weaver, a COIN aircraft is an armed adaption of a pure-trainer aircraft or observation planes, such as the Tucano, Hawk, Alpha-jet, L-39, A/T-37,.....or even light subsonic aircraft.

the A-10 could also be a COIN platform, as it is one already, see O/A-10A.

although COIN aircraft can also be a specific designed aircraft such as the A-67 Dragonfly, A-1 Skyraider, OV-10 bronco, OV-1 Mohawk,...

Nils et al
I've drafted some ROOLZ for the GB, and already posted them to Komrade Anatoli for his perusal and modification. I've put my ideass on the Front Line Vs Second Line trainer into the first or second rool. Briefly it's breaks-down into this:-

F/A-18B/D's and the like are fine and will not be dis-allowed, however when the voting happens, it is likely that those models more in the 'spirit' of the GB will emerge as front runners.
HtH.

Ian

[Brian da Basher]

personally, i dont think a 2-seat TSR-2 is eligable.
same goes for the F/A-18D/F, F-16B/D/F,.....
cause most, if not all, 2-seat versions of fighterjets are more strike aircraft rather then trainers.

to me, as said before by Weaver, a COIN aircraft is an armed adaption of a pure-trainer aircraft or observation planes, such as the Tucano, Hawk, Alpha-jet, L-39, A/T-37,.....or even light subsonic aircraft.

the A-10 could also be a COIN platform, as it is one already, see O/A-10A.

although COIN aircraft can also be a specific designed aircraft such as the A-67 Dragonfly, A-1 Skyraider, OV-10 bronco, OV-1 Mohawk,...

Nils et al
I've drafted some ROOLZ for the GB, and already posted them to Komrade Anatoli for his perusal and modification. I've put my ideass on the Front Line Vs Second Line trainer into the first or second rool. Briefly it's breaks-down into this:-

F/A-18B/D's and the like are fine and will not be dis-allowed, however when the voting happens, it is likely that those models more in the 'spirit' of the GB will emerge as front runners.
HtH.

Ian

Excellent Mr Hunter-Gatherer! I'm very much looking forward to seeing this Group Build begin!

Brian da Basher

[PanzerWulff]

I took an inventory of "The Stash" and I have 2 trainers in there bolth japanese 1st is the Mitsubishi T-2 Blue Impulse team boxing from Hase the 2nd is the Kawasaki T-4 Trainer also in the Blue Impulse team colors I'll probably do one of these for this build
"Panzer"