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Westland Whirlwind

Started by The Rat, September 26, 2005, 03:21:27 PM

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Quote from: Caveman on May 30, 2010, 04:44:21 PM
Other concerning things to me is the jet pipe cutting through the wing. As I have drawn it I am imagining the Welland ending just about at the leading edge of the wing. Possibly leaving enough room for some tight ducting over the wing spar and then down out of the exhaust? 

Running the engine airflow through the wing is just fine, that's what they did with the Meteor and had no issues with it. It'd need big ring frames but that's pretty well understood engineering.
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jcf

Personally I think 'twould look better with underslung Metrovick F.2 axial-flow engines ala Meteor F.9/40 prototype DG204/G.



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Caveman

I agree that an axial engine would look better. I went with centrifugal engine because I think that it would have been available earlier. I also think that with contemporary materials tech. a centrifugal engine would give better maintenance performance too.
As for under wing slung, I was trying to keep the landing gear within the nacelles. I thought that with the extra volume required it would look more 'balanced' with part of the nacelle above and part below the wing.
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kitnut617

Here's a pic of TSRJoe's Jet Whirlwind.  It appears in one of the BSP books.
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Caveman

ah brilliant :)

do you know where he has moved the landing gear to?
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kitnut617

You would have to ask Joe or read the book, I'm not sure how it would work
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I'd think that the main legs would be in the nacelle inboard sides and it would still be a tail dragger configuration.  Pilot view would be reasonable apart from some big gaps where the engines are.
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Weaver

Okay, I was just looking at ebay (just looking, please note...) and there was a Whirlwind next to a P-38.

Light bulb moment: what about a twin-boom Whirlwind?

If you want a justification for it, go back to the P-38. Let's say that Peregrine development went down the road of big turbo-superchargers rather than more cubes, and the nacelles got longer and longer until it made sense to put fins on the end of them and prune the fuselage.....
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Martin H

a twin boomer?

you mean like this?





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Weaver

Ah - thought it was too good not to have been noticed before - nice model Martin!  :thumbsup:

Good profile too Apo - nice one.  :thumbsup:
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MAD

Nice work gents! :cheers:

Hey GTX what about a torpedo-carrying Whirlwind (ala Beufighter type anti-shipping variant)? :thumbsup:

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The Wooksta!

Martin's already waaaaaay ahead of you.  IIRC he had the model on the display about 8 year ago...
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Quote from: The Wooksta! on October 06, 2010, 04:24:15 PM
Martin's already waaaaaay ahead of you.  IIRC he had the model on the display about 8 year ago...

just a little


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NARSES2

If it's already in this thread I apologise but it might be useful to put that nice timeline of Whirlwind development you produced onto this thread Martin ?
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