Westland Whirlwind

[andrewj]

Recently posted over on SecretProjects - A Whirlwind with under-nacelle intakes:



Use your imagination and you can almost see Napier Sabres there .

Regards,

Greg

Interesting photo, really well faked, this is the original.

The picture has been reversed ,hence the reversed direction of the props and the chin radiators added,would make a very nice whiff though
Andrew

[sequoiaranger]

>Interesting photo, really well faked, this is the original.<

Isn't "really well faked" the essence of whiffery??  

And, the perpetrator took the time to properly reverse the half-obscured serial number in the rear fuselage, too!

[Martin H]

and airbrush out the hanger on the left hand side of the original

[GTX]

>Interesting photo, really well faked, this is the original.<

Isn't "really well faked" the essence of whiffery??  

Beat me to it.

[PR19_Kit]

A little known fact is that the Épée design was the basis of the BRM H-16 Formula 1 engine of the mid-1960s.
Unfortunately the BRM folks so altered the design, that the end product was something of a drut.

But it sounded WONDERFUL, and in the back of the Lotus 43 driven by Jim Clark it won the US Grand Prix at Watkins Glen in 1965! Classic Lotus have found an H16 and they're putting back into the only 43 left, I can hardly wait. 

Was that the race Jack Brabham came third in?

Oops! Typo there, sorry!

Jack Brabham did come third in the 1965 US GP, but Jim Clark won the 1966 US Grand Prix in the Lotus 43.

[jcf]

A little known fact is that the Épée design was the basis of the BRM H-16 Formula 1 engine of the mid-1960s.
Unfortunately the BRM folks so altered the design, that the end product was something of a drut.

But it sounded WONDERFUL, and in the back of the Lotus 43 driven by Jim Clark it won the US Grand Prix at Watkins Glen in 1965! Classic Lotus have found an H16 and they're putting back into the only 43 left, I can hardly wait. 

Oooh, I'd love to hear that. 

[tomo pauk]

Hi,
Just wondered wheter there is a model of the Whirly with a radial engine of any type, plus wehther there is a model with Napier Dagger?

[Gondor]

Hi,
Just wondered wheter there is a model of the Whirly with a radial engine of any type, plus wehther there is a model with Napier Dagger?

You could always build a model like that as the real aircraft did not have those types of engine.

Gondor

[NARSES2]

OK thread revival, and no I've not been back to the beginning so apologies if my question has been answered.

Supposing, just supposing Westland offered the Whirlwind or a derivative of it to the Admiralty in the 1938/39 period, but the Admiralty wanted a radial engine version *. What radials could/would have been considered ?

* I can almost hear Petter's squeals of anguish now 

And yes I do have an inkling for a navalised one.

[The Wooksta!]

Bristol Taurus seems to have been the go to engine in that period.

[Mossie]

With a Sea Whirlwind Mk.II being powered by a Twin Wasp.  Problems with the Taurus led to it being replaced by the American engine in several British aircraft.

[NARSES2]

Cheers lads 

[KJ_Lesnick]

rickshaw

I wonder, could they be Merlins under there?  Might explain the need for increased or changed radiators.

The plane wasn't really compatible with them because of the center of gravity

[rickshaw]

rickshaw

I wonder, could they be Merlins under there?  Might explain the need for increased or changed radiators.

The plane wasn't really compatible with them because of the center of gravity

CofG can be changed.  British designers have, in the past, been quite willing to add up to several hundred pounds of weight to move it, fore or aft as required.   

[Mossie]

I've been perusing Secret Projects and it's been discovered recently that there really were plans to re-engine the Whirlwind with Merlins.  I'ts always been accepted (me included) that the Whirlwind was too tightly designed around the Peregrine, but it seems that it was simple logistics that prevented a Merlin powered version being built.  For every Whirlwind, you needed two engines instead of the single engine of a Spitfire or Hurricane and Merlins were in short supply early war.
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