Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions

nev · October 11, 2007, 09:13:49 AM

It has to be a golden twiglet, surely?

lancer · October 12, 2007, 01:45:20 AM

How about the about the order of the Golden Pork Pie? This could be awarded to our Ex-pat community for outstanding contributions to wiffery..

kitnut617 · January 11, 2008, 05:33:07 PM

Like it says, my Nottingham project would fit into either the CG/SAR GB or the Piston Perfection.

Cheers.....

Robert

Captain Canada · January 11, 2008, 09:03:32 PM

Good point ?!

I'd be guessing since you've had 'er in the SAR build the whole time, that'd be the road to go down......

nev · January 12, 2008, 12:48:50 AM

Well, in the past I've had them overlap as it were, but I've tried to do it so that the model is only officially "entered" in one GB - otherwise there is the possibility someone might accuse you of trawling for prizes. Best thing to do is to ask the mods of the relevant GBs.

anthonyp · January 12, 2008, 06:23:30 AM

What Nev said. It's up to the individual GB mods to set up the rules for their own GB's. If one were built for Piston Perfection, then entered into the CG/SAR, I'd allow it, but I'm not sure what the mods of the PP GB would say if you wanted to go the other way.

Hobbes · January 12, 2008, 06:49:20 AM

In general, the rules have been set up so a model only competes once (e.g. you can't enter models built before the GB start date). So I'd prefer to enter the model in one GB, and if you want, add it to the 'ineligible builds' thread in the other GB.

kitnut617 · January 12, 2008, 06:59:49 AM

Well that makes sense guys, I just wondered, although 'trolling' for prizes is the furthest from my thoughts. Just reading your comments about my build is my prize. Always appreciated.

Robert

Hobbes · April 14, 2008, 03:52:18 AM

For the last few group builds, we've had a vote to choose the GB. What happens to the GB ideas that don't make the cut? I can't find the old polls, but I've got the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the old ideas keep being tacked onto the latest poll.
When do we decide that a GB isn't going to happen? I suspect GBs have an expiry date: an idea gets proposed and it fires up people's imagination. If the idea is on the backburner too long, everyone will move on and eventually none of the imagined projects will get built.

The reason I'm asking: I've got one or two builds that would fit one of these GB ideas (e.g. the Landspeed Record GB), and I keep postponing them to see if the GB in question ever gets off the ground.

anthonyp · April 14, 2008, 01:41:29 PM

Quote from: Hobbes on April 14, 2008, 03:52:18 AM
For the last few group builds, we've had a vote to choose the GB. What happens to the GB ideas that don't make the cut? I can't find the old polls, but I've got the impression (and please correct me if I'm wrong) that the old ideas keep being tacked onto the latest poll.
When do we decide that a GB isn't going to happen? I suspect GBs have an expiry date: an idea gets proposed and it fires up people's imagination. If the idea is on the backburner too long, everyone will move on and eventually none of the imagined projects will get built.

The reason I'm asking: I've got one or two builds that would fit one of these GB ideas (e.g. the Landspeed Record GB), and I keep postponing them to see if the GB in question ever gets off the ground.

Actually, that's one of the reasons behind the polls: Group-Builds-of-the-Week. These resulted in the polls because people would get all fired up for an idea of the moment, and forget about good ideas that have been around for a while.

Old ideas keep being put on the poll until they get chosen (ex, the Profiles build has been on the calender for a long time, and it was almost chosen this time). There's no expiration date on GB ideas.

New ideas get put to the end of the line unless they've got a real world goal associated with the build (ie, the proposed Spitfire GB where those who want to organize it want to have the builds ready for a show later this year). There's plenty for the future, but there's also quite a few good ideas that are still around.

As for your ideas, who cares when the GB kicks off? Build it anyways! Maybe your build will make others rally around the GB idea and vote it in.

philp · June 20, 2008, 02:30:01 PM

About how many GB's do we have each year? 4, 6, 8?

The last poll anthonyp put out had 17 different suggestions on it, leaving 16 waiting in the wings. In the mean time, there will be 3+ new ideas before the next poll comes out. Anyone else see the dilemma? We will never get through the ideas and it could take 2-3 years before a GB you have been waiting for gets voted in.

I am sorry but in 6 months to a year, I could lose interest in an idea I had today. So, either I build it when I get the idea, I wait to see if maybe, a GB will get started or, how about, an unofficial GB?

I have plans for the LSR GB and the Spitfire GB. I kind of started what has turned out to be a possible future GB for the Trainers with Teeth.

I want to start working on these kits now while the interest is high so they may get built before any of the GB's become active. Then I am stuck when the GB finally happens (as opposed to being stuck by way too many profiles to pick from for the Profile GB).

How about we have some unofficial GB's that may only have 5-10 participants mixed in among the ideas that seemed to have generated a lot of interest. These could still be done a major GB's, maybe limited to 4 per year.

Just spitballing (ugh) here, feel free to throw in your .02 cents worth. Would like your input.

GTX · June 20, 2008, 02:42:58 PM

Or what if having pre-official start date entries allowed? Specifically, if you declare what you are going to build during GB discussion now and then between now and the official start date (in say 6 - 12 months or more), you actually build it, still be allowed to enter it in the GB. The main rule in this case would be proof that you stated your intention and have not varied along the way.

Regards,

Greg

Shasper · June 20, 2008, 03:18:47 PM

Depends on the mod's personal preference. . . And dont forget there are a few ideas that Commisar Antoly dropped from the GB idea pool (like my suggestion for a "Black Ops GB")

Shas

Brian da Basher · June 20, 2008, 07:56:24 PM

Well "unoffical" group builds never used to be a problem. Just get some like-minded folks interested and start a thread over on the Post Pics of Your Current Project section. I completely understand how you feel Phil and I can't imagine anyone being upset if four or five people have an "unoffical" GB if they want.

GTX, you totally hit on something. That's why I always allow "already started projects" in group builds I moderate. I like to open things up as much as possible.

Brian da Basher

anthonyp · June 21, 2008, 08:26:36 AM

If members want to have an "Unofficial GB", you're allowed. Go to town in the "What's on your bench" section.

Reason I do not put brand new ideas up is there's been a few over the last year or so that popped up, had a lot of support and noise prior to the build, they got made "official" then actual participation was less than five individuals, meanwhile, other ideas that we've bandied about for years sat in the wings. Like I said, members wanting to get together to build a bunch of similar things at the same time, go right ahead. This is a fun hobby and ideas and builds are not any less important if they're not in an "official" GB.

Addressing some of the other issues in this thread, already built, or in progress stuff is up to the individual GB mods. I don't have a problem with them in GB's, but some want the builds to go only within the specific time frame.

And as for GB's being dropped, they're not dropped, I just forget to put them back on the GB poll. The Gerry Anderson GB idea was pointed out as missing from the last one (honest mistake, there) and I didn't realize your Black Ops went into "deep cover," Shas. PM me in the future if I leave your GB off the poll and it will be rectified.