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Group Build Questions, Comments, and Suggestions

Started by BlackOps, November 15, 2005, 07:44:18 PM

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Weaver

Quote from: GTX on June 20, 2008, 02:42:58 PM
Or what if having pre-official start date entries allowed?  Specifically, if you declare what you are going to build during GB discussion now and then between now and the official start date (in say 6 - 12 months or more), you actually build it, still be allowed to enter it in the GB.  The main rule in this case would be proof that you stated your intention and have not varied along the way.

Regards,

Greg

Depends how important you think the competition aspect of a GB is. If it is important, then pre-official start date entries could be seen as unfair, since some competitors will have had over a year to work on their model whilst others will have only had the official timescale of the GB.

Now personally, I don't give a monkey's about the competition aspect: to me, the GBs are just another way of generation "moivational ideas"......
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Taiidantomcat

#76
I think Unofficial GBs are a great idea. I love this forum because its very laid back and extremely flexible, (like BdaB allowing entries that had been started previously). The ARCforum has an "unofficial armor group build" that goes indefinitely, one that could easily apply to Russian WHifs here as they are popular. RAF 100 could be a GB that goes until 2018!! i also think the unofficial GBs would gather more steam as imaginations get rolling and more entries will follow.
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Daryl J.

FWIW, the thought has often entered Ye Olde (deficient) Minde to have a one-or-more member, unlimited time GB on a specific topic.   For instance, tricked out WW-I and shortly thereafter aircraft.   Start to completion of GB....who knows.....5 years.....10 maybe.    Or another, the Race d'Euro Air using alternative machines to what is used at Reno and having the race somewhere pleasant in Europe.    Again, same time frame.    The point would not be to get a model built and out there, but rather a display of art and exploration of technique.

If the GB was one member big, that is sufficient, more is better.   

The idea came after seeing the Harrier SIG's display when it was in McMinneville, OR.     That must have taken some time to put together......years perhaps?   Seeing the Schnieder '49 display a couple of times was great and each display was some time after the completion of the contest.   


But that's an idea only.   :thumbsup:
:cheers:,
Daryl J.






AeroplaneDriver

I like the idea of a few members getting together for an unofficial GB, but anyone itching to start a project for a GB should also remember that the Official Grand And Mighty Annual One Week Group Build is coming up very soon.  Since it is open to any and all whif themes and subjects it's a good way to sneak a pet project into and official GB.

So I got that going for me...which is nice....

puddingwrestler

Just been reading thie thread in it's entirity (since it looks like I seem to have volunteered to run a GB) and I came across the proposal for our graphically minded members to design a medal/trophy thing to be used on all GB winning certificates and papers. Did that happen? Has said medal been created or should I go fire up Illustraitor? And has any thought been given to making a paper model trophy which can then be emailed, printed and assembled by the winner?
I ask because the murky depths of this thread seem to point to older versions of the forum where pudding bespattered loons a: fear to tread and b: where not around for the making and enjoying of.
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kitbasher

A query - an observation - really, concerning GBs.  Now I've entered a number of GBs in the relatively short time I've been signed up to the forum and I've always tried to meet the deadline.  What I've noticed is that with every GB a two week extension is usually sought and inevitably awarded.  Now I'm not grumbling about extensions in general as I think I've benefitted from one myself in the past - and as a means of encouraging people to complete their GB entries I understand why an extension is desirable.

But it does mean that those who try and meet the deadline might feel that their efforts to undertake a little bit of strictly friendly competitiveness are devalued by a little move of the goal posts here and there.  Should GB deadlines be strictly adhered to - or is that too draconian a measure and would it actually undermine the spirit of strictly friendly competitiveness a GB seeks to instill? 

Alternatively, does it mean that the GB deadlines in general are in fact a tad too tight, and that they need to be a fraction longer from the off, but with no extension requested/awarded as the finishing line looms into sight?

As I've said, it's an observation (certainly not a complaint or a campaign) and I wonder what other members think.  Any thoughts anyone?

Regards,

;D ;D
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The Rat

I always view group builds as just that, a build and not a contest. Everybody taking part has an assignment but we shouldn't take it too seriously. I have no objection to one (1) extension being granted, anything more is taking advantage of the situation.
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Modelling_Mushi

Gday all
As a bit of a newbie, when do the next round of group builds get announced? Just noticing that 3 or 4 are now at the voting stage, do you crank up anotehr 5 or so for the second part of the year? And how do you decide which ones, are they the next in line on the voting list?
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nev

Whenever Comrade Anatoly, Group Build Commisar, will put up a poll with a list of options.  Usually the ones that have been suggested since the last poll, plus the ones that came close in that one.
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Cobra

Hey Guys, Just Wondering...........has there ever or are there Plans for a Fantasy Submarine GB??? just wondering.

Spey_Phantom

just a thoght here Barbosa  ;D, when is the next GB poll  :huh:
i know that there are 5 open now, but most of them are drawing to a close or are closed  :rolleyes:
i know i still have a few projects to finish, but i really want to get back on the swing  :lol:
on the bench:

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AeroplaneDriver

Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...
So I got that going for me...which is nice....

Daryl J.

Quotes there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Was wondering the same thing.



Daryl J.

Taiidantomcat

Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 14, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Someone is ready to win two years in a row  :thumbsup:
"Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality." -Jules de Gaultier

"My model is right! It's the real world that's wrong!" -global warming scientist

An armor guy, who builds airplanes almost exclusively, that he converts to space fighters-- all while admiring ship models.

AeroplaneDriver

Quote from: Taiidantomcat on June 14, 2009, 05:43:08 PM
Quote from: AeroplaneDriver on June 14, 2009, 10:06:56 AM
Is there to be a Super-Duper-Official-One-Week-Group-Build this year?  It generally goes off in July or August, so time is drawing near...

Someone is ready to win two years in a row  :thumbsup:


Three actually....    :rolleyes:
So I got that going for me...which is nice....