New CF Aircraft:

[Alvis 3.1]

Here is what the Forces would LIKE to get, unlimited ceiling, high speed, VTOL capability...


Alvis 3.1

[Alvis 3.1]

and..after the pencil pushers and PC corrected goverment mandarins were finished, this is what they'd actually get!



Alvis 3.1

[Brian da Basher]

Alvis, I bow before your greatness! I saw this over on ARC's Silly Week first thing this morning while eating breakfast. Have you ever shot coffee and scrambled eggs out of your nose simultaneously?

It wasn't pretty, but your whifs sure are!

Brian da Basher

[John Howling Mouse]

Well, they do both have live Sidewinders: that will have to do.

What am I saying, we can't afford real Sidewinders, just the fiberglas mock-ups!

[Tophe]

VTOL capability...

How can you VTOL such a bird? Is there something to hold the nose, like a front exhaust from the rear engines? Or just mind control? What if...?
The second plane seems more reliable, more true, with its wing-tip rocket engines (I don't believe these are missile weapons, no)...  

[AeroplaneDriver]

Love the CF-X Wing!!

As for the other....I was thinking along similar lines as a solution to the current US/UK technology transfer tiff over the F-35.  What starts as a plan to navalize 80-something Typhoons ends up being cut to a couple of squadrons of Wright Flyer FG.1s, and even they end up costing 101 million each and dont enter service until late 2017!

I can just see the deck of the future HMS Queen Elizebeth covered in your Wright (Wrong?) Flyer FG.1s.

[Ian the Kiwi Herder]

On the second offering..... which one is the live round ?

[gooberliberation]

I remember there was a thread involving upgraded Sopwith Camels flying today... but your Wright Flyer takes the cake! B)  

[Alvis 3.1]

I remember there was a thread involving upgraded Sopwith Camels flying today... but your Wright Flyer takes the cake! B)

Oh I was in stark terror of having somebody beat me to mentioning the Wright Flyer as the oldest service aircraft...it kept creeping closer and closer, but seemed to end with WW One planes...phew!
You don't know HOW many times I've watched a thread run right over one of mt "secret" builds...you'd think it would induce me to buld more...but noooooo


Alvis 3.1

[Captain Canada]

love the x-wing...especially the way the F-16 drop tank sits on it...makes it look all the more 'real' !



And the cockpit on that wright-B looks about as modern as our CF-18s

[K5054NZ]

Hey Canucks - at least you have fighters in your airforce! All of ours were sold to an American training company! Our only jets are now two 757s!

[Captain Canada]

yeah, that was a pisser.....people the world over were mad about that ! The coolest, lowest flying donkey-kicking A-4s ever retired too early ? Somebody shoot the President, or PM or whoever you all got down there !

A few years back I saw one of your old 727s doing it's world tour before retireing for boring old 757s......that was in St. John's, NF. Got to talk to the pilots and got some good pics as he took off as well !

[K5054NZ]

Capn, I had no idea the decision went worldwide! But I'll tell you what was cool - seeing a flight of four Aermacchi MB.339s circling your hometown on a grey rainy day, noselights on, you standing on a hill with about a hundred other folk, saying your last goodbyes to a fighter force which served us incredibly well since 1970.

There was even a group going called SOS - Save Our Squadrons - who petitioned the government.

Brits hate Labour for cancelling TSR.2 - we hate Labour for not only cancelling our F-16s but also selling our entire Strike Wing to an American company. Not a single Skyhawk or Macchi for our warbirds movement. I hear a group tried to bag an A-4, but the Govt said no.

[Jschmus]

VTOL capability...

How can you VTOL such a bird? Is there something to hold the nose, like a front exhaust from the rear engines? Or just mind control? What if...?
The second plane seems more reliable, more true, with its wing-tip rocket engines (I don't believe these are missile weapons, no)...

Tophe, as I recall, the Incom T-65 is equipped with a nifty bit of alien-derived technology called a repulsorlift.  This device is capable of raising and lowering the craft without expending the ion fuel or needing the strike foils for lift.

Yes, I have spent way too much time analyzing tech in the Star Wars universe.

[Captain Canada]

a flight of four Aermacchi MB.339s circling your hometown on a grey rainy day, noselights on, you standing on a hill with about a hundred other folk, saying your last goodbyes to a fighter force which served us incredibly well since 1970.

Wow....good on ya, Zac ! Must have been a proud, angry moment for all concerned !

And what a load of bullshite, selling each and every bird. None saved for museums ?