Double Z Mirage IIICZ

[Archibald]

Yes, very impressive... You must do a model of that merging two Heller kits!!!

[Tophe]

(thanks to Gary's Javelin topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=9996  reminding my own Miravelin topic http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=6390 )
Sometimes, the delta aircraft are classified among the tail-less aircraft, so a double-delta is not fully a twin-tail aircraft... Fortunately, the Gloster (or Glostophe?) Twin-Javelin is the missing link: both twin-tail and twin-delta...

(thanks also to http://www.studenten.net/customasp/axl/pla...e_id=434&page=0 )

[Archibald]

C'est genial, comme d'hab quoi...  

[Tophe]

Thanks Argie, this is not genius, just dreamy, smily ^_^
And - as this is was a Mirage topic, ups - here is, 1/72, the Zwillin-Miravelin 2000Z (or in French: Mirage 2000TZ or Mirage 2002 or Mirage 8000 or Miravilain Zvilain)...:

[Archibald]

Well it's not a Mira-vilain...  

[Tophe]

I add the head of the zwilling-delta family: the Twin-Concorde

Maybe the Twin-Concorde was fun, but you may wonder : what-if the Soviet had a cousin of this one too? The answer is the Dvukh-Konkordsky Tu-144Dv (the codes 244 and 444 were already used... see the supersonic bizjet at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu-444 ).
Below: top= fragile Twin-Concorde, bottom= solid Tu-144Dv:

(thanks to http://www.avsim.com/pages/0105/bearcave/t...ev_tu144_02.jpg )

[Tophe]

Mirage 2000Z it seems...

Outside of Germany (and the related Zwillings flugzeuge), why the twin-planes would be coded Z? A Z sign is made by 2 triangles opposite, and a double-delta cannot fly that way... On the contrary, a capital Sigma letter of the Greek alphabet (S in Symbol characters for computer) is close to the shape: 2 triangles side by side.

Well, the 2 opposite jets can  fly somehow, as rotary wing above a fuselage... Doblhoff XV-1 way.

[Tophe]

Another solution for a Double-Mirage to be a perfect twin-tail aircraft is to be twin-tail-first,
like the double-canard Mirage 44 000 (44.000 for the French, not 44,000 for export as... shht: this is top top-secret , the source http://www.aviation-fr.info/militaire/prot...otos/j10/12.jpg may even be destroyed soon , despite the hoax of a photograph faked into separate planes   ...)

[Tophe]

Proof of the secret status of the French twin-canard: who has ever heard of the W-tailed Double-Milan? Just me! Doctors here around do agree: this stands as a proof (but I don't understand what they are saying, "the proof of" what? They use technical words of their own)...

(of course, on the Web, just a truncated one is presented at http://www.geocities.jp/protoplanes/image/Milan_1.jpg )

[Tophe]

Side-by-side Double-Deltas, absolutely true and actually flying, are featured at http://kites.icelands.ca/3.6m_Double_Delta...onyne_147sm.jpg
and http://www.kitelife.com/archives/issue45/pacific05/
No Photopaint work of mine, I swear!

[Tophe]

I know, I know, this site is not dedicated to kites...
Well, back to scale models, here is what could the Mirage 2003C (or CZT?) look like, flying over the Red Sea, or in Mars atmosphere.

I will probably not glue the two elements together, nor paint the result all again, this is just a step back to 1/72 models...  

[Tophe]

Mirage 44 000 (44.000 for the French, not 44,000 for export as... shht: this is top top-secret , the source http://www.aviation-fr.info/militaire/prot...otos/j10/12.jpg

Ups... Why is there j10 in the address? Yes, this silhouette looks like a Chinese J-10 more than a Mirage 4000... (and the twin like a J-102 more than a Mirage 44000...).
I have checked, and this is Google's mistake, not mine: the pictures were all about the J-10 while the text just mentioned once the Mirage 4000, just before the interesting picture...

I will not blame Google anyway, thanks for this search tool to exist, thanks so much...

[Tophe]

Well, the Mirage 44 000 mystery had to be solved... and it is right now!
After investigating deeply in MyMind Co. archives, I confirm the Mirage 4000 [top] was considered in side-by-side version Mirage 44000 [middle, left], in jet-helicopter version Mirage 4000Z (with a windtunnel model 1/72 + 2×1/144) [middle, right], in tandem version Mirage 4004 [bottom].

This is all I have found (without psychedelic drugs yet...).
PS. For the Mirage 4004 (double-delta in a different direction), thanks to our dear JHM that directed the MyMind engineers to the amazing kite movie http://www.kitelife.com/videos/demo/bethell_promo.htm  

[Archibald]

Il est fou au secours lol !!!!  

[Tophe]

Il est fou au secours lol !!!!

In English: "he is crazy, help!"  
Well, here in the Whif mad-house, we are all gently crazy, more or less, and - dear Archibald -with your nice batch of Twin-Phantom ( http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...?showtopic=9731 ), with circular wing and even better, you belong clearly to the nursed-ones, not the nurses...  ^_^