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[waynos]

Just had to update my details with models2u and got a couple of snippets of information.

Anyone waiting for the xtradecal sheet 1 (X72059) FROM MODELS2U AINT GOING TO GET ONE (me included). Their suppliers have let them down (which might equate to they didn't order them early enought , I don't know) but they have got sheet 2 (which I already have, grrrr).

There most likely WILL be extra kits available, for instance Hannants say three people with kits on order have since died!

regarding the production total, I may have uncovered the reason for the confusuion about how many will be produced with it being revealed on the other thread that 14,800 will be made rather than 10,000.

I was told (without even asking) that the contractual obligation is 10,000 kits for the UK market plus 4,800 for export, which ties in neatly with the figures already discussed.

To my dismay I also discovered that the moulds are 'economy' moulds that are not designed to last beyond the initial run!!!!! This is something that Airfix are now regretting after the planned run sold out so quickly but there's nothing they can do about it now. *shakes head*

So thats the latest as I understand it.

[Spellbinder99]

Well, I think the "economy molds" story is a smokescreen as Airfix said they wouldn't be able to do a second run for 4-5 years. Why say that if it was never to happen? Why not just say it is a once only thing?

Anyway, even if that was so, nothing would stop Airfix doing a new set of molds with the info they have, so I am assuming that if they want to, they will. Hopefully the 1/48 scale version will be available one day.

I am glad I got two copies of each of the decal sheets on initial release as a lot of the decals will have other uses as well.

Latest I heard was the breakdown was 10,000 Uk, 3,000 Japan and 1,800 for the rest of the world.

Trust me on this, if I see any on shelves when I am home in Australia next, they won't be when I walk out of the store....

Tony

[Radish]

Quite, Wooksta!

See you on sunday at Hudders  

[Jonathan Mock]

Where does this stuff come from?

Ok guys, here are the facts. The TSR.2 moulds are not "limited run", 'soft" or any other rumour you may have heard from a friend of a friend, they are standard, heavy duty, mainstream moulds capable of turning out throusands upon thoudands of copies liek any other commercial kit mould.

I really can't add much more than that. I dunno where these rumours comes from but they're way off the mark.

[waynos]

Well I was told this by the models2u guy who was told by the Airfix rep so I can hardly claim to know it for certain. Still, it wont bother me either way as I'll have mine already  

[Aircav]

You've got one!!!, lets see it, aw go on please, pretty please      

[K5054NZ]

I just hope I can get at least one, two at the most.

[Geoff_B]

Where does this stuff come from?

Ok guys, here are the facts. The TSR.2 moulds are not "limited run", 'soft" or any other rumour you may have heard from a friend of a friend, they are standard, heavy duty, mainstream moulds capable of turning out throusands upon thoudands of copies liek any other commercial kit mould.

I really can't add much more than that. I dunno where these rumours comes from but they're way off the mark.

Well it comes from the Reps which tend mean they are only about 50% correct and using 50% educated guess to make it appear they are in the know. Its the nature of Reps to speculate on the bits they do know to make out to their customers that they know the juicy details to gain the confidence of the buyer and get a sale. Some of the rumours are even official encouraged to allow marketing to gauge demand by following the response to certain rumours over various forums and mediums.

Trev indicated last year they had taken orders for nearlly 15,000 and was interested how the management was going to get around this issue. Looks like they found a way to stay legal and keep its cutomers happy.

Also been confirmed by various senior Airfix managers that the moulds are not of the limited run variety, however the phyiscal mould is not as vital these dyas as the drawings & program to create new moulds have been created and stored on file, computer controlled engineering could probably create a new completed set of moulds in a few days now. Its the older kit create dthe old fashioned way that have the problems as these were created by hand and are irreplacable without many manhours being spent converting it into a computer model.

G

[waynos]

Aircav, no I said I WILL have mine already, sorry If I got your hopes up falsely.

Which is a good point by the way, will the first member to recieve theirs post some lovely pics up? I mean the shop version of course not the previews. I will if its me.

That lucky geezer can then lord it over the rest of us for abour, ooh, a day or so  

[nev]

I wonder if Hannants will have their staff working OT to get all their orders shipped out as soon as the kits arrive?  


Not long now precious, yessss, not long....

[Jonathan]

Here are some facts regarding the TSR.2 tooling which seems to have been the subject of some wayward rumours these last few days.

The tooling is not "soft", "limited run" or anything else you may have heard. It is a mainstream, heavy duty, industrial strength, steel tooling, capable of turning out thousands upon thousands of kits, like any other mainstream mould.

There is no "change to the tooling" required, nor are the moulds now shot and incapable of producing any more kits. This has come straight from the man who knows, Trevor Snowden, who has designed and overseen the tooling first hand.

Hopefully this will settle that particular issue once and for all. Forget what you heard, or think you heard, that comes from source.

[Geoff_B]

Here are some facts regarding the TSR.2 tooling which seems to have been the subject of some wayward rumours these last few days.

The tooling is not "soft", "limited run" or anything else you may have heard. It is a mainstream, heavy duty, industrial strength, steel tooling, capable of turning out thousands upon thousands of kits, like any other mainstream mould.

There is no "change to the tooling" required, nor are the moulds now shot and incapable of producing any more kits. This has come straight from the man who knows, Trevor Snowden, who has designed and overseen the tooling first hand.

Hopefully this will settle that particular issue once and for all. Forget what you heard, or think you heard, that comes from source.

Hi Jonathon

(you can register you know we don't bite - although Terry Campion does Bark when excited or bored )

Its not us starting these rumours, some of us were started the campaign back in 2003 and know from Trev & Andy exactly what was planned and produced. Its the reps speculating in model shops that trigger these rumours as they tend to make eductaed guesses rather than get all the facts, or use speculation to fill in the gaps that they don't know.

Anyway less than a week for the kits to arrive in the UK, then they can be mated with your decals and the instructions, boxed up and shipped out to the various reselelrs for distribution to us anxious modellers.

Cheers

Geoff Baker
TSR2 SIG

[MerlinJones]

Anyway less than a week for the kits to arrive in the UK, then they can be mated with your decals and the instructions, boxed up and shipped out to the various reselelrs for distribution to us anxious modellers.

Cheers

Geoff Baker
TSR2 SIG

Given that the decals are Chinese-made, along with the kits, isn't it possible that they will arrive on our shores already in their boxes, complete with Chinese-printed decals and instruction sheets?

[P1127]

AS JM and Thorvic have an inside track, what is the reasoning that Airfix say they can't produce anymore?

I've seen references to 'legal' reasons - are they talking Trade Descriptions Act? As a trading standards officer, I could give them advice for free!

PM me if you don't want to talk online!