Me-262 and derivatives

GTX · March 14, 2006, 02:20:27 PM

Hi Folks,

Richard's post re the Africana Me-262 started me thinking (ouch!!!). What if the Germans had won the war - would we have seen the 262 used in multiple roles just as the Meteor was. For instance would we have seen:

Me-262B variants used for ejection seat testing like this one by Martin Baker:

http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/...eteor/met17.jpg

Me-262A variants used for inflight-refueling trails such as this:

http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/...meteor/met4.jpg

Me-262A varaints used as target drones such as:

http://www.vflintham.demon.co.uk/aircraft/...eteor/met16.jpg

Me-262 variants used for turbo-prop trials such as:

http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories...ent/Trent_1.jpg

Me-262 variants used for prone-pilot trials:

http://unrealaircraft.com/fowler/images/me...eteor_prone.jpg

Your thoughts and pictures if you have already attacked this subject.

Regards,

Greg

Howard of Effingham · March 15, 2006, 02:49:54 AM

i have a RoG Me P1099 at home that i am trying to finish in blue angels livery though this is just for the sheer fun of it.

Tophe · March 15, 2006, 10:04:50 AM

QuoteMe-262 variants used for prone-pilot trials:
http://unrealaircraft.com/fowler/images/me...eteor_prone.jpg
Greg

Thanks GTX for this link, I had never seen this pretty Meteor...

and I have imagined a similar Mustang, immediately (see http://www.whatifmodelers.com/forum//index...40&#entry127469 )
Funny (except for test pilots maybe)...

GTX · March 15, 2006, 02:26:24 PM

Tophe,

Glad to be of service - here are a couple more pictures of the prone Meteor testbed, including a line-drawing (sorry for the slight cutoff in the wording - but it was only the title anyway):

Enjoy.

Regards,

Greg

Tophe · March 15, 2006, 09:11:34 PM

Great! Thanks! Will we ever get a conversion kit to build that weird beauty in 1/72?

Martin H · March 16, 2006, 11:53:37 AM

QuoteIt's at Cosford - at least it was in 1999.

She is still there. or at least she was in November 2005. I doubt it will be going anyware in the near future.

GTX · March 16, 2006, 11:51:36 PM

Wooksta,

Thanks fot the info about the Unicraft kit of the turbo-prop Me-262. Here's a few links for anyone who is interested:

http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/ge...2tp/me262tp.htm
http://www.geocities.com/unicraftmodels/ge...e262tpwanta.htm
http://www.geocities.com/krasira/bigph1/me...tp-ishiduka.htm

Regards,

Greg

GTX · May 07, 2006, 11:22:33 PM

Hi folks,

As a further addition to this older thread, I just came across a nice full colour picture of the Prone Meteor test aircraft:

Just in case anyone was interested in modelling it.

Regards,

Greg

Archibald · May 08, 2006, 12:46:07 AM

She would look better whithout the "ordinary" cockpit... a kind of futuristic bomber!!!

The Rat · May 08, 2006, 06:31:45 AM

QuoteShe would look better whithout the "ordinary" cockpit... a kind of futuristic bomber!!!

In a typical bureaucratic screw-up, 150 examples of the prone-pilot Meteor were ordered and delivered before tests revealed the concept to be unworkable. Stuck with a few squadron's worth of aircraft with no pilots, the MoD issued a directive that beginning immediately the height requirement for pilots would be lowered to 3' 6". Martin-Baker were also tasked with developing an ejection seat only half the size of previous designs...

GTX · May 09, 2006, 01:16:46 PM

QuoteShe would look better whithout the "ordinary" cockpit... a kind of futuristic bomber!!!

Or perhaps with a Spectre rocket in the tail as a short range interceptor (the pilot wouldn't have wanted to be in the prone position for long).?

Regards,

Greg

Archibald · May 12, 2006, 02:14:32 AM

thanks!!! Have you ever seen the training version of the Il-28 Beagle? just get ride of the the "ordinary" cocpit and you have a beautiful plane (Il-28U Mascot... )

Archibald · May 12, 2006, 02:16:42 AM

What the hell is that?
Targeted for assasination by JMNs

I understood it change according to the number of posts... Am I right? What the next stage?

What JMN exactly means?

Hobbes · May 12, 2006, 02:27:26 AM

Nah, that text changes only when the moderators decide to change it. It usually refers to something funny or embarrassing you said in a recent posting.

JMN = Joyless Modeling Nazi, someone who spends time pointing out flaws in a model (used the wrong color, model is inaccurate, etc), instead of having fun building the model.

Archibald · May 12, 2006, 02:33:53 AM

Want to know what I said: don't want to be killed by JMNs... Well I understand why they want to kill me. It's true I don't give a damn about camo or markings. for example when there's three RAF markings on the box of the model, I merge the three

So a JMN seeing my models would probably die of an heart attack...