Aircraft Carriers

[anthonyp]

Or even VLS into the sponsons, similar to the French I think it is, who put ASTER in the sponsons.

I've heard some in the US arguing against using VL ESSM on their next carriers because they don't want malfunctioning SAMs to fall back toward the carrier (and possibly into parked aircraft on the flight deck)  

Not that I'd think of it as that much of a problem.  Even ordnances are built to last nowadays.

Sounds a tad spurious.  All you need do is angle the launcher slight outwards and the ships speed should prevent it from falling back on the carrier.

Remember, that's why the Soviets built some of their ships with angled VLS in case their missiles failed to launch (mainly SSM's, but I think they did it with a few of their AAW's).

However, ESSM's and SM's are housed in standard VLS on cruisers and destroyers in the USN, so I don't think a failure to launch is a concern (considering on cruisers and destroyers it'd fall onto the superstructure, causing more damage than to a flight deck).

In WHIF form, I've given 24 VLS cells to my Enterprise class USS Reprisal for use with AEGIS ESSM (giving 96 missiles).





USS Reprisal overall

[Fulcrum]

I have another silly question: would a Hermes-class aircraft carrier be able to operate a Mig-29K or A-4 with a redesigned ski-jump similar to the Admiral Kuznetsov-class?

[rickshaw]

China Restores Varyag

[dy031101]

I have another silly question: would a Hermes-class aircraft carrier be able to operate a Mig-29K or A-4 with a redesigned ski-jump similar to the Admiral Kuznetsov-class?

Many people I talked to on topics along that line aren't all that comfortable with launching a supersonic aircraft from a carrier that couldn't make above 30 knots.

[GTX]

USS Reprisal

Now there's a name ....tell me more!

Regards,

Greg

[Thorvic]

USS Reprisal

Now there's a name ....tell me more!

Regards,

Greg

Named after a cancelled Essex class carrier from the end of the war.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/35.htm

G

[PR19_Kit]

Many people I talked to on topics along that line aren't all that comfortable with launching a supersonic aircraft from a carrier that couldn't make above 30 knots.

Doesn't it rather depend on how SLOW the aircraft can fly rather than how fast?

[dy031101]

Many people I talked to on topics along that line aren't all that comfortable with launching a supersonic aircraft from a carrier that couldn't make above 30 knots.

Doesn't it rather depend on how SLOW the aircraft can fly rather than how fast?

That's the thing- people don't tend to see supersonic aircraft as having good low-speed controllability.

[Fulcrum]

Many people I talked to on topics along that line aren't all that comfortable with launching a supersonic aircraft from a carrier that couldn't make above 30 knots.

Doesn't it rather depend on how SLOW the aircraft can fly rather than how fast?

That's the thing- people don't tend to see supersonic aircraft as having good low-speed controllability.

Maybe put new engines in the Hermes, with a possible elongation of the deck to provide some extra launching-deck space.
I am thinking of it as I will do a shipbucket profile of it in the near-future.

[Thorvic]

I have another silly question: would a Hermes-class aircraft carrier be able to operate a Mig-29K or A-4 with a redesigned ski-jump similar to the Admiral Kuznetsov-class?

In Thoery you could actually back fit Viraat (Hermes) to her CATOBAR configuration which was removed on 1971. The Mig-29 is probbaly no larger or heavier than the Sea Vixen abd Buccaneers she used to operate.
However se was laid down in 1944 and completed in 1959 and has been in service since so she is somewhat tired and therefore it would not be practical to try such an exercise now for so little potential service (the refit would take as long as the remaining build time on the first ADS). However if they are thinking of retaining a STOVL carrier till 2020 it does put Ark Royal or Illustrious (from 2014) into the frame as stop gap replacements to cover the role until then !

[tigercat]

in R/L their were Merchant ships taken up from trade and converted to Auxilary Anti Aircraft ships but would it have been possible as a stop gap measure to introduce a Merchant Anti Aircraft Ship which retained the cargo capacity while increasing the anti aircraft capacity at least early in the war. Merchant ship armament was typically an old 4 inch and a machine gun in each bridge wing so for example a ship with only the armament typically fitted to Liberty ship, in early 1940  ,would have seemed a huge progression

"American Liberty ships carried a crew of about 44 plus 12 to 25 "Naval Armed Guard". The size of the naval party depended chiefly on the armament fitted, which might comprise a single three- four- or five-inch gun aft with sometimes a similar weapon forward. These might be supplemented by six to ten 20 mm cannon plus two 37 mm anti-aircraft weapons"


What would have the limits have been if it was specifically designed as an anti aircraft ship how many weapons could be fitted without iinterfering too much with cargo carrying capacity.  

The VC2-S-AP5 Haskell-class attack transports were armed with the 5 inch (127 mm) stern gun, one quad 40mm Bofors cannon, four dual 40mm Bofors cannon, and ten single 20mm cannon. Would it have been feasible to have fitted a double oerlikon in place of the single ones giving a MAA with a similar layout 32 barrels belching out AA fire


How feasible would trhat or something similar be.

[anthonyp]

USS Reprisal

Now there's a name ....tell me more!

Regards,

Greg

Named after a cancelled Essex class carrier from the end of the war.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/02/35.htm

G

Yep!  The other three Enterprise class I've got in the wings are:

USS Shangri-la CVN-68
USS Atlantis CVN-69
USS Intrepid CVN-70

[roughneck06]

Has anyone had any experience building the USN CVV circa 1970s proposal as an alternative to CVN 68 class? I have an AARI 1/800 USS America- could I use this as a basis to convert it into a 1/700  CVV? What thickness of sheet styrene should I use for the flight deck? Any thoughts as to how to redo the hull- i.e. hangar openings?

If anyone has built a CVV and has some templates- I'd be grateful if you'd share them with me. This sort of conversion is the biggest Wif project I've attempted- so any info, ideas, comments are greatly appreciated.

[GTX]

Has anyone had any experience building the USN CVV circa 1970s proposal as an alternative to CVN 68 class? I have an AARI 1/800 USS America- could I use this as a basis to convert it into a 1/700  CVV? What thickness of sheet styrene should I use for the flight deck? Any thoughts as to how to redo the hull- i.e. hangar openings?

If anyone has built a CVV and has some templates- I'd be grateful if you'd share them with me. This sort of conversion is the biggest Wif project I've attempted- so any info, ideas, comments are greatly appreciated.

This is something I am planning to do one day too.  What info do you have on the CVV already, perhaps we can help each other?

Regards,

Greg

[proditor]

Count me as interested as well.  My current plan is to hack up a 1/720 Nimitz until it looks right, but any ideas whould be good at this early point.